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    OH MY GOD


    ...you mean the evil gubmintz can get access to the same information they'd find in the phone book? Scary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    OH MY GOD


    ...you mean the evil gubmintz can get access to the same information they'd find in the phone book? Scary.
    I think it's the reverse, by knowing the phone number you can backtrack the e-mail owner. If it's the other way I agree.

    That type of confirmation system is old though, I've encountered it back in 04-05. Since I was late an didn't get a cell until 06, that was a bit of a problem.
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    I think it's the reverse, by knowing the phone number you can backtrack the e-mail owner. If it's the other way I agree.

    That type of confirmation system is old though, I've encountered it back in 04-05. Since I was late an didn't get a cell until 06, that was a bit of a problem.
    I honestly don't see why the government shouldn't be able to tie an email account to a person, just like they can tie a mailbox to a person.

    This privacy hysteria is starting to get as annoying as the security hysteria. Be gone both of you, you give me cancer.
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    In fact, with a Universal ID for citizens, tie a state-administered email account to it?

    That gets rid of issues with the private companies that provide email domains and all that. Also, no trouble with changing the "official" account. Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    I honestly don't see why the government shouldn't be able to tie an email account to a person, just like they can tie a mailbox to a person.

    This privacy hysteria is starting to get as annoying as the security hysteria. Be gone both of you, you give me cancer.
    You give me migraines sometimes HoreTore. Apparently the world you wish to live in is a world of no privacy, rampant sexual hedonism and polyamory and everything is given to you by the government.

    OH MY GOD. HoreTore has either never read Brave New World​ or he did. And I don't know which is scarier.


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    HoreTore has either never read Brave New World​ or he did.
    I read it when I was 11 and I thought it sucked.

    I reread it for English class at 14 and thought it sucked even more.

    That is, unless you interpret it as the story of final victory over barbarism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    I read it when I was 11 and I thought it sucked.

    I reread it for English class at 14 and thought it sucked even more.

    That is, unless you interpret it as the story of final victory over barbarism.
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    You give me migraines sometimes HoreTore. Apparently the world you wish to live in is a world of no privacy, rampant sexual hedonism and polyamory and everything is given to you by the government.

    OH MY GOD. HoreTore has either never read Brave New World​ or he did. And I don't know which is scarier.
    Privacy is good, but this privacy wave we're seeing now is getting absurd. It gets in the way of sensible policies, like removing money and switching to electronic payment, because apparently it's super-important to "protect privacy".

    But don't get me wrong, I still consider airport security to be a lot dumber...

    Also, Brave New World is neither russian or french, nor eritten before the 20th century. Thus, I haven't read it. Though the utopia you describe does sound tasty.... Will there be a ban on hipsters too? If so, I'm in.
    Last edited by HoreTore; 08-09-2013 at 22:14.
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    Well how old are you now son?
    I'll do the brave thing and post a photo of myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    I'll do the brave thing and post a photo of myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    I honestly don't see why the government shouldn't be able to tie an email account to a person, just like they can tie a mailbox to a person.

    This privacy hysteria is starting to get as annoying as the security hysteria. Be gone both of you, you give me cancer.
    The goverment should be able to know everything about your public persona yes, it's the question how deep the protection of a private life should be. Should you be able to have a private e-mail akin to post boxes or maildrops?

    More general, I do get the feeling that this will end up with AI:s knowing everything about everybody. Filtering and chross checking through a ton of data feels like their niche and NSA would keep thier data gathering, while making a small privacy concession about their employers using it to check out the ex-girlfriend's new husband.
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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