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    Using tools on the job and carrying the same around in public - there's a difference, no? Do you see it?
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    Default Re: When did American society become so feminized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Using tools on the job and carrying the same around in public - there's a difference, no? Do you see it?
    Oh? Does that mean that people stop carrying Lethermans and such now? Just about anyone who works with their hands is usually not without one, on the job or at home.


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    on the job or at home.
    Maybe I'm not being clear:

    *Most people in contemporary urban societies do not need to make use of such tools
    *Those that do compartmentalize their use to work situations
    *Hobbyists who use such tools confine their use to that specific context
    *Consumers out about the town simply do not ever carry such tools and have no expectation of others carrying them in their environment
    *Front-end/customer service workers have as their primary - and usually only - tool the computer

    What;s so hard to get about this?
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    Default Re: When did American society become so feminized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Maybe I'm not being clear:

    *Most people in contemporary urban societies do not need to make use of such tools
    *Those that do compartmentalize their use to work situations
    *Hobbyists who use such tools confine their use to that specific context
    *Consumers out about the town simply do not ever carry such tools and have no expectation of others carrying them in their environment
    *Front-end/customer service workers have as their primary - and usually only - tool the computer

    What;s so hard to get about this?
    Urban society perhaps but most people don’t work white collar urban jobs. They live in suburbs and get their hands dirty. Even nerdy engineers carry such tools in case they need to fix something.

    Go out and see some fly-over country.


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    Even nerdy engineers carry such tools in case they need to fix something.
    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency
    *Most people in contemporary urban societies do not need to make use of such tools
    *Those that do compartmentalize their use to work situations
    They live in suburbs and get their hands dirty.
    Listen, seeing a plumber walking around with their tool-kit is taken by the observer as part of the plumber's job. It's analogous to a man in a business suit carrying a briefcase.

    Now, if the plumber were then asked if they were currently heading to a job/assignment, and they responded, "No", that would be taken as bizarre.

    Just as bizarre as a businessman-by-day going out for (non-business related) dinner with briefcase in hand.
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    I think you are a little hide-bound in your viewpoint. Obviously you live in a large urban center, but most people do not.

    What you may think of as normal is actually a narrow view. Most men do ware such out to dinner, mostly because their wife would object, but they would come to the dinner table at home with such, and likely ware it shopping or around town.

    Speaking of bizarre, why don’t you go to a Wallmart and report back on what you have seen. ;)


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    Half the US lives in cities of more than 1 million inhabitants...
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