When did American society become so feminized?

[Myth]

And yes, it does make sense. It is the same reason I carry a flashlight. Not because I go out and say "Hey, I am gonna drop something in a dark hole and need a flashlight to see it today!", or "I think tonight is a nice night to break down!", but because it is one of three easy to carry tools that come in handy in random situations fairly often, and are not a pain to carry around. A leatherman multi-tool, a flashlight, and a folding pocket knife are three things I carry on my belt and in my pocket everywhere (including when I go out to eat).

It is for the same reason I keep a short-handled, flat shovel, a fire extinguisher, a first-aid kit, a sand-log, and a hatchet in my car at all times: just because they may come in handy at some point in the day, and I would rather have them at that time than not. Why doesn't that make any sense? Or would you rather be the guy who pays out his rump for a service he could easily have done himself

Flashlight - i use my mobile phone. That Galaxy SIII has a widget called "assistive light" and it's as bright as the independence day mothership. Granted it won't last too long but then again I don't plan on doing caligraphy in the dark in the middle of nowhere.

Short shovel I only carry in my trunk when it's winter here, because it sucks major spheric objects to gets stuck with a vehicle that is not 4x4 where your tires eventually creat little arching patches of glass-smooth ice and you can't get out.

Fire extinquisher and first aid kit are mandatory for all motor driven road vehicles here. Alongside a reflective vest, a reflective triangle and spare bulbs for your short headlights and your stop lights. Is it differente over there? Here, when the cop is really pissed/bored/hungry for a bribe he will check every litle detail and ask to see if you have that stuff in your trunk.

I have a shovel that can also be replaced with a hatched and was considering carrying it in my trunk but I can't forsee a situation where I would actually make use of a hatchet, apart from going medeival on someone which is not really a sound plan over here. I do however carry a blanket for unforseen sexy time in some field with my GF.

Nonsense, you just stab with it, streetfights are no martial arts

Eh, if you're fighting someone who knows what they are doing you'd get that knife stuck in your bunghole. If the both of you are inexperienced average joes then probably you having a knife will make him retreat. Knowing how to use it only matters if you're fighitg a skilled opponent.

[Fragony]

Eh, if you're fighting someone who knows what they are doing you'd get that knife stuck in your bunghole. If the both of you are inexperienced average joes then probably you having a knife will make him retreat. Knowing how to use it only matters if you're fighitg a skilled opponent.

Disarming someone is nigh impossible, I got a black belt in jiu-jitsu and I can assure you that I can't disarm someone. You would need a handlock movement to make someone release it and you are very unlikely to make one, and you will probably get hurt trying. If someone has a knive, run. Much better.

[Myth]

Yes but the average idiot will not have your posture, foot work, speed, reflexes and confidence. He will probably flail madly at you until he starts blinking sweat from his eyes. At some point you'd be able to bring him down and avoid the knife hand. If you're a striker you can knock him out, if you're a grappler/lockdown specialist you can bring him to heel. I used to train Aikido but only for a couple of years, and I know that what you train for and what happens in the street are two different things. But, if push comes to shove, someone like you will have a much higher chance to win with no or maye a minor wound. Perhaps you will get a horizontal slash or two against your forearms, big deal. Once you get a hold of the moron wiht the knife you can jump on his head until it resembles playdough. I know I would.

If the guy with the knife is some street thug who has been in may fights (and knife figths) then you'd be better of running, grabbing something with better reach or shooting him. Here's somethig fun to watch while on the subject.

[Fragony]

The average person will tear me up pretty badly really. Martial arts are a sport, except for kickboxing that is actually fighting

Edit, just got to, we do it differently here, at my home great fun

The REAL bear jew https://smg.photobucket.com/user/Fra...tml?sort=3&o=0

Me being seriously beat up
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Goodnight et adieu https://smg.photobucket.com/user/Fra...ml?sort=3&o=24

Full contact no protection ;)

[Vuk]

If you are not trained with a knife and try to defend yourself with it, you will hurt yourself

I cannot believe it, but I actually find myself agreeing with Strike on something! No, not because it is likely that your opponent will pull the knife out of your hand an use your own knife on you, but mainly, when an attacker who wants to rough you up and take your money sees you reaching for a knife, his intent will get a lot more serious. Most times you are gonna be attacked by more than one person. If you are trying to stab the guy, his friends who were just gonna rough you up are gonna stab you now or maybe beat you to death instead. Second of all, if they start grappling with you, are you gonna be able to keep hold of the knife? If not, it could be used directly against you. Even if you do keep it in your hand, you still may be held down and beaten to death.

Nonsense, you just stab with it, streetfights are no martial arts

You are right that they are not martial arts, but there is more to it than 'just stab with it'. How do you just stab with it? Martial arts are controlled practice sessions to train reflexes in you for real situations, but often times the practice is so removed from reality that they end up training reactions in you that can get you killed (such as bjj to name one of many). Having real experience in fights trains reflexes a lot better.
You are right that in a street fight people aren't gonna be doing a bunch of fancy looking techniques and are not going to be really thinking, but the guy with the best reflexes is still gonna win. Knowing what you are doing is pretty important.
Like I say, chances are in many situations that you will not even get your pocket knife out of your pocket and unfolded in time.

Flashlight - i use my mobile phone. That Galaxy SIII has a widget called "assistive light" and it's as bright as the independence day mothership. Granted it won't last too long but then again I don't plan on doing caligraphy in the dark in the middle of nowhere.

Short shovel I only carry in my trunk when it's winter here, because it sucks major spheric objects to gets stuck with a vehicle that is not 4x4 where your tires eventually creat little arching patches of glass-smooth ice and you can't get out.

Fire extinquisher and first aid kit are mandatory for all motor driven road vehicles here. Alongside a reflective vest, a reflective triangle and spare bulbs for your short headlights and your stop lights. Is it differente over there? Here, when the cop is really pissed/bored/hungry for a bribe he will check every litle detail and ask to see if you have that stuff in your trunk.

I have a shovel that can also be replaced with a hatched and was considering carrying it in my trunk but I can't forsee a situation where I would actually make use of a hatchet, apart from going medeival on someone which is not really a sound plan over here. I do however carry a blanket for unforseen sexy time in some field with my GF.




Eh, if you're fighting someone who knows what they are doing you'd get that knife stuck in your bunghole. If the both of you are inexperienced average joes then probably you having a knife will make him retreat. Knowing how to use it only matters if you're fighitg a skilled opponent.

No, nothing like that is required here. Most people think I am really weird for having that stuff in my car. lol
As far as a hatchet, the reason I have it is mostly to break glass. I have needed it to break a windshield before (which even with a hatchet is a lot harder than you would think BTW). Also, I use my car off-road a lot during certain times of the year (Crown Vic FTW), so it can come in handy then.

Strike is from Texas, he is just telling you how it is.

As in “Boy, you pull that thing on me, it best be made out of chocolate, cause, you go’na be the one eating it.”

Though, realistically Strike probably knows a lot less and has a lot less experience than Frags when it comes to real fights and to martial arts training.

Disarming someone is nigh impossible, I got a black belt in jiu-jitsu and I can assure you that I can't disarm someone. You would need a handlock movement to make someone release it and you are very unlikely to make one, and you will probably get hurt trying. If someone has a knive, run. Much better.

True, straight out disarming someone with a BJJ handlock or whatever is hard, but kicking someone in lower gut, then in the face when they reel tends to disarm them pretty quickly.

My advice to you Frags (if you are gonna insist on using a knife) is to get a fixed-blade with 6" blade on it, and install the sheath into a pocket in your overcoat in the winter, and one with a 4" inch blade for your trouser pocket in the summer.
If you cannot deploy your knife before you a knifed, it really does you no good.

[Fragony]

My advice to you Frags (if you are gonna insist on using a knife) is to get a fixed-blade with 6" blade on it, and install the sheath into a pocket in your overcoat in the winter, and one with a 4" inch blade for your trouser pocket in the summer.
If you cannot deploy your knife before you a knifed, it really does you no good.

I am never in the the situation, just got it with me. I'll walk away from a 12 year old

[rvg]

...I'll walk away from a 12 year old

Who wouldn't? God forbid you hurt the kid, you'll be in a world of trouble (especially if it's Obama's son). If he hurts you, he'll be facing very limited liabilities due to age.

[Vuk]

I am never in the the situation, just got it with me. I'll walk away from a 12 year old

Yeah, but you have it with you in case you are ever in that situation, right? Best to be prepared.

EDIT: Yeah, and I don't really get the whole 12 year old thing either.

[Myth]

Do not undersetimate yoursel Fragony!