Syria

[Fragony]

“But I guess that a first world quality country wouldn't need any torture dungeons to keep their populations from revolting, so obviously Yugoslavia didn't have any, right?” Just to add a little bit of oil on the fire, then add water: Can you remind me the position in the 50’s of the blacks in the US Democracy, and in what was engaged the Democratic France (in term of Repression, not bad) or the slaughter of the Indonesian Communists? I add Wounded Knees, in 1974, about the situation in the Indian Reserves, or the Natives in Australia.

'Slaughter of Indonesian communists' do you have any more on that, new to me at least

[Lemur]

'Slaughter of Indonesian communists' do you have any more on that, new to me at least

There's a new documentary coming out right now about it, looks amazing. Note that the genocide was also about ethnic Chinese as well as commies.

[Fragony]

There's a new documentary coming out right now about it, looks amazing. Note that the genocide was also about ethnic Chinese as well as commies.

Just about everyone, pretty bloody affair. Almost all caribians and whites and mollucs where killed. But that Chinese and Communists also got targetted is new to me

Edit, allright you got me. That looks awesome.

[ICantSpellDawg]

As an update, The GOP Speaker and House Majority Leader are a green light for intervention. The Democratic President has also announced that CIA trained Syrian rebels are currently being deployed.

[Papewaio]

Great so how many years before the Syrian rebels become Al Qaeda Part Deux?

Because if you train them and then don't support then to the hilt they will hunt you down like a lover scorned. Just remember who Oliver North was worried about.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Great so how many years before the Syrian rebels become Al Qaeda Part Deux?

Because if you train them and then don't support then to the hilt they will hunt you down like a lover scorned. Just remember who Oliver North was worried about.

This absolutely needs to be considered. I believe that it is being considered - heavily. I am in favor of using force where force is needed. I believe that a developing world where people don't have to have an active an present fear that they are going to be killed by government or private parties is in our best interests, both short and long term. I more broadly define U.S. interests than you seem to. As I have stated, multi-national oil companies don't present the same interests that I have, but a newly married college graduate in Syria does. I am more interested in making the Syrian safe than expanding the oil monopoly. I believe that the former action will do more to secure my own interests.

[Papewaio]

I concur and Australian interests are also broadly the same.

[Fisherking]

As an update, The GOP Speaker and House Majority Leader are a green light for intervention. The Democratic President has also announced that CIA trained Syrian rebels are currently being deployed.

Such great news! Now the arms industry doesn’t need to worry about beget cuts. There will be lots of money for campaign contributions. Hooray! Of course gas and oil prices will go up too, after all, there is a war within 6,000 miles of an oil field. So they thank you too.

I wish they would rule out ground-troops. My support for intervention is absolutely not shared by my friends who are still in the service.

Right! Can’t you think of why that might be? Hazard pay is to be cut, Their yearly pay raise is capped at 1%. Everyone E-6 and below is eligible for food stamps. They see how valuable they are to society and how much putting their lives on the line for these people matters.

Kerry says if the regime becomes destabilized to the point that their chemical weapons are unsecured, we'd have to put boots on the ground....

This kind of seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy if the current plans are carried out doesn't it?

The idea of yet another war, and one where our friends are as much or more of a threat than the enemy is not very appealing.

Great so how many years before the Syrian rebels become Al Qaeda Part Deux?

Because if you train them and then don't support then to the hilt they will hunt you down like a lover scorned. Just remember who Oliver North was worried about.

Quite so!


I am so glad some of you have a such a high minded goal in mind, to stop the suffering of others.

Just remember that when the bodies pile up, and how much good you have done.

[Fisherking]

Sorry, Republicans may throw them a bone now and again and verbally support them to keep up moral but this is not new.

Big budgets go for big toys. Tanks are a bargain at $4.35 million. A Blackhawk is over $5 million. Apaches are $61 million and fighter jets are $150 million and the ammo would buy a couple of hummers per round. People are cheap. Intensive air missions cost more than deploying troops. Putting troops on the ground is a great opportunity for defense contractors. More broken stuff means more money too. Everyone makes money. Except Snuffy that is getting shot at.

Military pay has not kept up with inflation. An E-7 makes about what a McDonald’s manager does. A 3 star pulls down about 100k. Not great by civilian standards for what they do. Want to figure what that would be per hour if they punched a time clock?