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    In a flip-flop to my previous post, the occupation in Iraq had a favorable outcome, due to the skill of the Army. My assertion that they are inept is baseless and faulty based on a review of the current situation in post-occupation Iraq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    In a flip-flop to my previous post, the occupation in Iraq had a favorable outcome, due to the skill of the Army. My assertion that they are inept is baseless and faulty based on a review of the current situation in post-occupation Iraq.
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    You didn't even quote me right.” Err, I copy and paste: Difficult to quote not right.

    “How does showing basic military professionalism translate to committing war-crimes?” Showing basic military professionalism doesn’t implicate “you lose your rights”. That means to obey legal orders based on lawful decisions.

    The Army is breaking down because the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.” I don’t know. However, I think this can be due to the fact that engaged twice in dodgy wars without any real purpose, soldiers don’t see why they fought. We had this in France after Algeria, when the Army won the war but Algeria became independent nevertheless. We even had a putsch then a terrorist campaign by the most extremist of the most lost soldiers. Professional units rebelled as they couldn’t see why their members had died in vain (most famous one being the 1st Régiment Etranger de Parachutistes – Foreign Legion). Other units as the 2nd Régiment Etranger de Parachutistes stayed in the legality, but still, it took ages to cure the army of useless wars and battles.
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    The thing about the chemical attacks is that it favours Assad, due to the rebels having urban superiority due to mass of small arms, whilst the more conventional forces such as tanks get bogged down with the narrow streets, high rise buildings and are very susceptible. This is why orders from above to Assad's forces forewarn about chemical attacks, which clears an area then the army just marches in virtually unopposed. I am pretty convinced the chemical attacks are done by Assad and he is evidently benefiting from them. The blood of his people is on his hands, men, women and children.

    The issue starts to come in with "What do we do about it?". There is the UN Red-line on Chemical Weapons. I hope the UN gets the guts to actually condemn Assad and commission an UN Taskforce perhaps seeking assistance of NATO and Russia, and I hope Russia decides to do the right thing over its own personal interest such as profiting from the arms dealing.

    The use of Chemical Weapons, Biological Weapons and Nuclear Weapons such be met with very serious consequences from the UN.

    Assad should step down, there is no doubt about it. have some one else in the regime take-over, some one who is interested in resolving the issue peacefully. With co-operation between the new regime and the moderate forces within the rebels, there is a chance to form a stable and perhaps democratic state in the region.

    Arming the rebels, simply bombing the place, it is fighting fire with fire, it will burn down Syria even more significantly just to get Assad removed by force.
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    All people referring to UN and Chemical weapons should read who signed the treaty and not, and who carry on the produce Chemical (and biological) weapons. That will be enlightening... And who didn't ratified it... Then who used it massively after W.W.2 (clue: Vietnam) (dioxin component)?
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    Just finished emailing my senator and congressman to vote "nay" on any action against Syria. That's about all I can do to prevent this madness, but at least I did my part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    Just finished emailing my senator and congressman to vote "nay" on any action against Syria. That's about all I can do to prevent this madness, but at least I did my part.
    I've never understood the point or meaning of the "write your congressman"-thing you yanks do.
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