Vampire myths exist in so many different cultures, though...Originally Posted by Sarmatian
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Vampire myths exist in so many different cultures, though...
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Ireland was the alternative, and the reason why I was so keen on making the Balkan trip happen
I still believe visiting Serbia is important, even though there may not be any direct marks of the conflict. Allowing the students to see what the place actually looks like has value in my opinion. Still, the most important thing is to give them the "Serbian perspective", so finding the perfect guy to talk to is a priority. I have 7 months-ish to do that though, so I'm not that worried about it...
Also: screw trees and water, they have beer.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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Not really, there are 'vampire' cementaries found all over eastern-europe, NOSFERATU
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Serbia, the origin of vampire porn... (The brides are clearly from the Lamia -> Vampyre -> Carmarilla trend).
Now it wouldn't surprise me if some vampire stuff comes from Serbia, but all of it? A lot of the stuff is older and more general.
We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?
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Lamia is from ancient-Greek mythology, yep, it's older
Last edited by Fragony; 09-13-2013 at 09:15.
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A vampire is basically someone who drinks blood and is viewed negatively because of it.
So, you should expect to find vampire legends in all cultures who have a negative view of drinking blood(of which there are quite a few).
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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Not blood but human blood, is used for all sorts of things, sausages, soup, etc. Drinking human blood is as far as a I know a stigma fron late-rome, blood of christ an all that, also incest because they called eachother brother and sister. Disclaimer: I have no idea if this is actually a fact
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"Blood drinking viewed negatively" nicely spills over into "drinking human blood". Ie. taking one negative and turning it into a double-negative.
You'll see vampire-ish legends and myths in all cultures who view drinking blood as a negative. You won't find much in cultures who practiced drinking blood(human or animal) as a ritual(like eating the heart of your beaten enemy, etc).
EDIT: The current vampire myths in western culture originate in the balkans though, and was introduced a few centuries back when people started moving from eastern to western europe, taking their brand of superstition with them.
Last edited by HoreTore; 09-13-2013 at 14:11.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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If you consider any mythical creature that may drink blood as a vampire, then possibly yes, there are examples in many cultures. But the word itself as well as most of the lore is Serbian - dead person that rises from the grave, must be staked and proper rituals must be performed to kill it for good, it is active only during night, it rests in the coffin during the day... All taken from Serbian mythology.
The first case that brought vampires into imagination of Europe at large was Petar Blagojevic from Kisiljevo in 1725. Details of that story were published in Viennese newspapers and that's how the word and the lore spread through Europe.
EDIT: On a non-vampire related thing, you guys will hear the Serbian version if you visit Republika Srpska, ie. Serbian part of Bosnia.
Just keep reminding the kids that they should critically assess everything they hear.
Last edited by Sarmatian; 09-13-2013 at 14:31.
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The word 'vampire' perhaps, but the name for it is nosferatu; those that walk at night
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The word, Nosferatu appeared about century later and the etymology of the word is still debated. It was popularized in the 1922 in the film "Nosferatu" because they didn't want to use the word vampire to avoid lawsuit (it didn't work, they got sued).
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I would put my bets on 'we who walk the night', must be a cult of some sorts.
Balkans are interesting at least, goes to show
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Nah, far less cool. It's a slightly archaic Romanian word for the Devil/Satan.
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Possibly still awesome, the Lamia is in fact really a big thing among gypsies. A demon from hell or whatever, Romenia figures, lotsa gypsies in Romenia
Edit, yes I have seen 'Drag me to hell', didn't get it from it
Last edited by Fragony; 09-13-2013 at 18:40.
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