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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    It should be noted that the shooter did not use an 'assault rifle'. Reports yesterday to the contrary were blatant efforts by select media organizations to create a false narrative.
    FWIW, the AR-15 ID is reported to have come from a local Fox affiliate, which was grabbing info off police scanners and putting it out without secondary (confirming) sources. Bad reporting. Not a "blatant effort by select media to" blah blah blah.

    Rather, it was cops on the radio saying it was an AR-15, and a local news station repeating it without confirming.

    Also, I'd be cautious about using the term "sheeple." It's kind of a marker for conspiracy nuts. As in, it's one of their go-to words. You don't want to throw discredit on an argument through a simple word choice.

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    Didn't follow this story closely, but it appears "senior law enforcement officials" were also announcing the AR-15 as a weapon. So ... yeah. Media conspiracy is kinda off the table as a talking point. Sorry. "Despite statements on Monday from senior law enforcement officials — which were widely reported in the news media, including in The New York Times — that an AR-15 had been found at the scene, no such gun has been found. The authorities say they do not believe the gunman used one."

    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    "regulated" means equipped and the founders protected our right to have a serious arsenal and be equipped
    Can't find any etymological source that confirms that "regulated" had this meaning in the 18th century. It certainly doesn't mean that today. Your source?

    In fact, glancing at the etymology of the word, it has derived directly from synonyms for "control," which puts it in line with today's meaning. Here's a source.

    "[F]rom Late Latin regulatus, past participle of regulare 'to control by rule, direct,' from Latin regula 'rule' (see regular). Meaning 'to govern by restriction' is from 1620s."
    Last edited by Lemur; 09-18-2013 at 01:26.

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