Nobel Peace Prize 2013

[PanzerJaeger]

Oh, I think it debased itself well before that.

Henry Kissinger.

Yasser Arafat.

'Nuff said.

Kissinger's Peace Prize is understandable given the circumstances and period of time in which it was given, and even holds up today when taking a broad view of his actions, despite the revelations of some of his less than peaceful endeavors in South America, etc. Obama's? Not so much.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Kissinger's Peace Prize is understandable given the circumstances and period of time in which it was given, and even holds up today when taking a broad view of his actions, despite the revelations of some of his less than peaceful endeavors in South America, etc. Obama's? Not so much.

The Obama award was made to encourage efforts at peace-making. Hortore published their award criteria a few threads back (at the Obama award I believe), and using the award to encourage efforts at peace-making is one of the specific criterion used.

I tend to have a typical Yank's view about awards -- that they are given in recognition of something you have ACHIEVED ALREADY. From such a perspective, the Obama award was patently silly since it was more of a "you make us feel better so do some more peacenik stuff" award than anything else.

In fairness to the committee in Oslo (only Norwegian Nobel), they ARE abiding by the criteria outlined for the award at its inception and "encouraging efforts" is one of the guidelines.

The fact that I find it silly does not mean that they are not making the award as it was intended.

[Kadagar_AV]

Please have in mind that this is the NORWEGIAN Nobel prize.

They don't exactly have a stellar history, and their modern choices have been reminiscent of HoreTore after a night out.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Please have in mind that this is the NORWEGIAN Nobel prize.

They don't exactly have a stellar history, and their modern choices have been reminiscent of HoreTore after a night out.

Actually, to provide credit where it is due, Horetore's PWD has been pretty consistent with his PWS. The Oslo Nobel folk however....

[a completely inoffensive name]

Previous choices say less about the credibility of the award as a whole and more about the Scandinavians making the decision.

If I remember correctly, the Kissenger prize was followed up by the resignation of two Nobel committee members in disgust over the choice.


The idea of honoring the peace bringers is still a very noble one in my opinion and the award is not diminished in any way when more suitable choices will be made in the future.

[Husar]

Maybe it just shows how shallow and fake our world is if even the wisest of committees are unable to see which efforts for peace are genuine.

I will admit that watching Malala on the Daily Show I couldn't help but think that some of the things she said sounded like her media advisor told her to say that in order to get support. I really hope that she doesn't even have one but nowadays you never know. And I keep wondering about the people who call almost everything fake on the internet...

[HoreTore]

The Obama award was made to encourage efforts at peace-making. Hortore published their award criteria a few threads back (at the Obama award I believe), and using the award to encourage efforts at peace-making is one of the specific criterion used.

I tend to have a typical Yank's view about awards -- that they are given in recognition of something you have ACHIEVED ALREADY. From such a perspective, the Obama award was patently silly since it was more of a "you make us feel better so do some more peacenik stuff" award than anything else.

In fairness to the committee in Oslo (only Norwegian Nobel), they ARE abiding by the criteria outlined for the award at its inception and "encouraging efforts" is one of the guidelines.

The fact that I find it silly does not mean that they are not making the award as it was intended.

What's funny though, is that the ones you'd like to get the award, like Malala, is NOT a prize according to the criteria. Just like we know that the peace prize will be awarded every year, we also know that Fredrik S. Heffermehl will write an angry chronicle stating that the prize is not according to Nobel's will and that human rights, democracy etc has nothing to do with the prize. He's also critical this year, since the OPCW only seeks to ban one kind of weapon, not all weapons... Fortunately though, nobody cares about him.

Also, I have to ask: what has Malala actually achieved? Is there peace in Pakistan now, thanks to her efforts?

[Fragony]

Is there peace because of Obama or peace because of Al Gore. She doesn't deserve the Nobel-price I fully agree, as the Nobel-price doesn't deserve her. I got a kilo of spinache in my fridge that has more credibility.

Edit, it are actually two ounces.

[HoreTore]

Obama

Nuclear disarmament initiative coupled with the Cairo speech.

Al Gore.

"Causes of war" human rights-thingy. Highlighting climate as a cause of war is what gave the IPCC the prize.

And anyway, you just disagree with the prize for them because you disagree with them politically. So your opinion is pretty much irrelevant.

[Fragony]

Owwwww ouch Horrie, you are suggesting that the Nobel peace prize is not political? Just reading between the lines, but that would be hysterical

[HoreTore]

Owwwww ouch Horrie, you are suggesting that the Nobel peace prize is not political? Just reading between the lines, but that would be hysterical

As I said in a previous post, the peace prize is purely political, as was intended by Nobel.