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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    What does it matter, give a my little pony castle to whoever deserves it most instead. Has more credibility.
    That you disagree with them is a sign they're on the right path, as you do not agree with the aims of the prize.

    Oh, and the EU was also a prize according to the will. By applying the strict definition Heffermehl wants, which excludes human rights activists, the prize would be given to various heads of international organizations, mostly EU and UN affiliated, with the occasional peace broker in between. I fail to see how that would be "better".
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    That you disagree with them is a sign they're on the right path, as you do not agree with the aims of the prize.

    Oh, and the EU was also a prize according to the will. By applying the strict definition Heffermehl wants, which excludes human rights activists, the prize would be given to various heads of international organizations, mostly EU and UN affiliated, with the occasional peace broker in between. I fail to see how that would be "better".
    What you, and the the Nobel price commitee, fail to understand is that nobody respects this price anymore. It has been tainted by political activism and all it says is 'yourrr my boyyyyyyy'. Respect only goes so far and I kinda like the mental image of the Nobel peace commision being flabbergasted about the fact that nobody gives a about their price. They overstepped in their activism, simple as that, now it has no gravitas anymore

    Especially hilarious was giving it to the EU, everybody with half a brain understands we have to thank the Americans for peace in Europe, not the EU who is making every mistake it possibly could make. 1848 2.0
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    We should never have let the Norwegians handle it...

    Frags is actually right at one point: The Nobel Peace Prize has become somewhat of a laughing stock. I guess it's only still on the radar because the Swedish section has a good reputation, and Norway kind of tags along in the shadow.

    Kissinger...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    It has been tainted by political activism and all it says is 'yourrr my boyyyyyyy'.
    It hasn't been 'tainted' by it, it was founded on it. It is supposed to say 'you're my boy'.

    Nobel's vision was the immediate and unilateral dismantling of a country's armed forces. The prize was created to further that aim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    It hasn't been 'tainted' by it, it was founded on it. It is supposed to say 'you're my boy'.

    Nobel's vision was the immediate and unilateral dismantling of a country's armed forces. The prize was created to further that aim.
    And the rest of us is just waiting for it's latest low of all time, up to the point of a reversed Mount-Everst. That low. I don't know how low it can get after giving it to the self-congratulating EU, or Dronebama, but I am sure they will surprise me. Giving it to that Afghan girl would have made sense at least, but they wouldn't have the guts to give it to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Giving it to that Afghan girl would have made sense at least, but they wouldn't have the guts to give it to her.
    That would not be in line with Nobel's will(strictly interpreted), and would require changing it in a way you described as "Caput tuum in ano est in his honour".

    I do like the expansion the cmmittee has done, however, and I do believe it's in line with Nobel's ideological views.


    Giving it to organizations like the EU is what Nobel had in mind. Have a look through the first 20 laureates, it's almost exclusively the chairman of some international organization like the EU.

    EDIT: And on Kissinger: I fail to see how bringing an end to the defining conflict of an entire era, the Vietnam war, should not be considered worthy of the peace prize.
    Last edited by Beskar; 10-14-2013 at 17:47.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    And the rest of us is just waiting for it's latest low of all time, up to the point of a reversed Mount-Everst. That low. I don't know how low it can get after giving it to the self-congratulating EU, or Dronebama, but I am sure they will surprise me. Giving it to that Afghan girl would have made sense at least, but they wouldn't have the guts to give it to her.
    Challenger Deep in the Mariana trench is even deeper than Mount Everest is tall. So that could work for the latest low of all time.

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    Either it is an age thing, or there has been a genuine shift in perception over the years, but when I was younger, the Noble Peace Prize was an 'oh wow!' moment, the perception has changed to 'That award used to mean something, now handled by idiots'.
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