And the winner of best defensive unit goes to.........

[Myth]

Best defensive unit? A throw between fully trained and upgraded Pretorian Guard, Heroes of Sparta and Macedonian Foot Companions.

[fallen851]

Best defensive unit? A throw between fully trained and upgraded Pretorian Guard, Heroes of Sparta and Macedonian Foot Companions.

Cost relative to effectiveness is the most important attribute when determining what unit is the best, and I think that is his point.

Most expensive ≠ best unit

[Jarmam]

Cost relative to effectiveness is the most important attribute when determining what unit is the best, and I think that is his point.

Most expensive ≠ best unit

I disagree with the statement itself, but none of the top elite units are particularly expensive as it is compared to standard infantry (excluding things like Eastern Spearmen, who are awful).

Other than that I thought the point of this thread was a love story! Sadly all my heroic defenses have been by elite Pikes, which... yeah. There was a unit of Velites at one point that somehow locked down an enemy squad of Oathsworm for roughly 30 seconds, giving my two Equites time to wedge the Oathsworn from a couple of angles. Now the Velites were annihilated and were auto-disbanded post-battle, but their heroic saving of Legio I Victor Liberatoribus' right (very weakened) flank is yet to be forgotten. I think they might have won me that fight. K/D ratio, not so much.

[andrewt]

Pikes are really good at defending behind castle gates. Even hoplites in square formation work. But pikes, there's just no way to flank them when they are guarding a gate.

[antisocialmunky]

Any half way decent unit that you can prevent getting shot to pieces or having the AI run through usually is pretty good.

[Kamakazi]

Pikes are really good at defending behind castle gates. Even hoplites in square formation work. But pikes, there's just no way to flank them when they are guarding a gate.

ive never put much stock into pikes.... might need to try them out....

[Myth]

ive never put much stock into pikes.... might need to try them out....

Pikes give Heroic Victories aplenty. In my Seleucid campaign I took on 3:1 odds against me, by corner camping with my pike line and sallying out with cav to finish off the throngs of slingers after the enemies die at the pike wall.

[Kamakazi]

Ill give it a shot... Im doing Pontus on VH right now and im at war with Seleucid (only cuz I decided I wanted their champion =P) So im probably going to need a heroic victory or 3

[Slaists]

Pikes give Heroic Victories aplenty. In my Seleucid campaign I took on 3:1 odds against me, by corner camping with my pike line and sallying out with cav to finish off the throngs of slingers after the enemies die at the pike wall.