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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    I do not, but I can see how a nationalist like you would think so.
    Didn't you just say...
    ...FYI Americans, this is why we Europeans consider you barbaric...
    You're a European, no? Or you're not one of those Europeans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    Didn't you just say...

    You're a European, no? Or you're not one of those Europeans?
    Mindless nationalism trademark #3: the tendency to take everything literally, especially when it's negative statements about ones country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Mindless nationalism trademark #3: the tendency to take everything literally.
    Perhaps you could provide the figurative meaning of your statement for this "mindless nationalist"? Or would this be considered a "Mindless nationalism trademark #4"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    Perhaps you could provide the figurative meaning of your statement for this "mindless nationalist"? Or would this be considered a "Mindless nationalism trademark #4"?
    Don't see much point in that.

    Anyway, back to the topic:

    Anyone else have thoughts on the three strike system, and/or on giving the most severe punishment for nonviolent crimes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Don't see much point in that.
    Right. Because there was no alternate figurative meaning.
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    It's interesting that the majority of those sentenced to life without parole are Black and are located in the South and Midwest. This is a travesty of justice and to me constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment". The war on drugs needs to stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Anyone else have thoughts on the three strike system, and/or on giving the most severe punishment for nonviolent crimes?
    Three strikes is an insane idea. It takes an extremely self-righteous person, or perhaps just a stupid one, to think that locking someone up for life for three petty convictions has anything to do with "justice".

    And it's bloody expensive as well - I wonder how many of its supporters are self-described "fiscal conservatives".

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    And it's bloody expensive as well - I wonder how many of its supporters are self-described "fiscal conservatives".
    Three strike law states present a very weird mix of super-conservative (like Texas) and super-liberal (like Massachusetts) states.
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    I'm a fair minded guy. Liberals can be imbeciles, too.

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    At a glance... notice the amount of people in this list that are black. A lot of it comes down to race. If you look at the American "justice system" African Americans are more harshly punished than any other race. The American system is a farce. Its more luck of the draw than fare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamakazi View Post
    At a glance... notice the amount of people in this list that are black. A lot of it comes down to race. If you look at the American "justice system" African Americans are more harshly punished than any other race. The American system is a farce. Its more luck of the draw than fare
    Don't worry, the abusive machine is expanding every day to treat all people like slaves. Equal opportunity.

    Regarding police unions - it is a tough one. They clearly need a focused advocate. The life of a police officer in metropolitan areas is often in danger. Add to this that they are a constant beacon of political fury rightly or wrongly. They need a strong blue line to provide backup in a way that most other industries dont. Too often, this is used to evil and self serving ends.

    You could make officers lives much safer if you stopped forcing them to rustle up trouble where there isnt much and breed criminals through the contempt that they build for "justice". You would also make them less numerous and less well paid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamakazi View Post
    At a glance... notice the amount of people in this list that are black. A lot of it comes down to race. If you look at the American "justice system" African Americans are more harshly punished than any other race. The American system is a farce. Its more luck of the draw than fare
    Also notice their geographical location in the south.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamakazi View Post
    At a glance... notice the amount of people in this list that are black. A lot of it comes down to race. If you look at the American "justice system" African Americans are more harshly punished than any other race. The American system is a farce. Its more luck of the draw than fare
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