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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    Freedom is a buzz word that is itself quite meaningless in American English. More important are the connotations and associations that the different political camps place on the buzzword. The far right does a nifty double-think where Freedom actually means something quite oppressive, but they pretend its not a buzz word at all. The left simply doesn't use the word without sarcasm or irony.
    And I call your Right-Left mindset Myopic and Delusional!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    And I call your Right-Left mindset Myopic and Delusional!

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=52b_1...xjXtCxXjIXy.01
    Napolitano is a pretty decent guy, always liked him on the Daily Show as well.
    It's nothing new though, it's either that politicians are not really deciding a whole lot and get paid to decide "the right way" or it's your lovely voting system that completely erodes the differences in party politicies. Or maybe it's a bit of both.

    Of course you get a little bit of this in other countries as well, it just seems like the USA have managed to make this trend exceptionally strong, USA#1 I guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    And I call your Right-Left mindset Myopic and Delusional!

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=52b_1...xjXtCxXjIXy.01
    ...And I call this idiot someone who crossed the treshold into New World Order conspiracy lunacy a long time ago, and should be tarred and feathered for his nonsense.

    "What if he would just shut up?" is the question I have after watching that.
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    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    ...And I call this idiot someone who crossed the treshold into New World Order conspiracy lunacy a long time ago, and should be tared and feathered for his nonsense.

    "What if he would just shut up?" is the question I have after watching that.
    "tarred" has two "r's" in it. What is this, you third language or something?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    "tarred" has two "r's" in it. What is this, you third language or something?!?
    No.

    Obviously I meant to determine or indicate the tare of, especially to weigh in order to find out the tare.

    How did that confuse you?!? You mexican?!?!!
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    "tarred" has two "r's" in it. What is this, you third language or something?!?
    *gently hugs Seamus, pats on back - and go "there, their, they're"*
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    [grumbles]Verdamnt European polyglots. Better in my own language than am I......[/grumbles]
    "The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman

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    And here I thought the English teacher I had had had had no effect...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    *gently hugs Seamus, pats on back - and go "there, their, they're"*
    Where does Seamus use any of those?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    ...And I call this idiot someone who crossed the treshold into New World Order conspiracy lunacy a long time ago, and should be tarred and feathered for his nonsense.
    I know it's faux news and I blame him for being on that but what exactly is so bad about his point that American politics hardly provide a real choice anymore? Or did I miss anything?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    "What if he would just shut up?"
    The use of "would" in an if-sentence is further only allowed under certain conditions, you may want to look that up.
    Here's a start: http://data.grammarbook.com/blog/ver...e-vs-if-i-had/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Where does Seamus use any of those?
    Wow, we went from grammar/spelling police to joke nazi in like 2 posts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I know it's faux news and I blame him for being on that but what exactly is so bad about his point that American politics hardly provide a real choice anymore? Or did I miss anything?
    He's well into the paranoid idea that "the powers that be" are constantly conspiring to screw him(the "regular citizen") over, and that political debate is nothing more than a show to hide the hidden power structure.

    Ie. a conspiracy nutjob. Unsurprisingly he endorses Ron Paul, the nuttiest of the bunch.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    He's well into the paranoid idea that "the powers that be" are constantly conspiring to screw him(the "regular citizen") over, and that political debate is nothing more than a show to hide the hidden power structure.

    Ie. a conspiracy nutjob. Unsurprisingly he endorses Ron Paul, the nuttiest of the bunch.
    Whether Paul would be any different is irrelevant.

    It is not so much a conspiracy as it is just the way US politicians operate.

    Money is speech. Big Corporations give to both parties and individual politicians to get them elected.

    Then the politicians want to keep the money coming so they vote in ways that benefit their benefactors.

    The result is that laws favor these corporations and the people get ignored or sold out.

    The two parties may have different talking points but the end result is the same.

    The end result is a one party system that favors the money givers.

    You are just buying a line, go back to you leftist roots and take a closer look.

    The system need overhauled but there is no politician that is going to go along with it so long has they want to keep their job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    It is not so much a conspiracy as it is just the way US politicians operate.

    Money is speech. Big Corporations give to both parties and individual politicians to get them elected.

    Then the politicians want to keep the money coming so the vote in ways that benefit their benefactors.
    But that is a conspiracy unless the companies say openly what they're up to. They certainly seem to let the politicians know who also do not claim to be supporting the secret desires of companies. If that is not a conspiracy, what is? Do they have to invent fancy names for their inner circles?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    Whether Paul would be any different is irrelevant.
    He's definitely different in the sense that he's the only US politician who I wouldn't be surprised to see sprouting some sovereign citizen nonsense. And that's quite relevant.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    He's definitely different in the sense that he's the only US politician who I wouldn't be surprised to see sprouting some sovereign citizen nonsense. And that's quite relevant.
    It beats politicians going along with the Military-Industrial Complex or any other complex where the money trumps the populous.

    Whether you favor collective rights or individual rights a power structure at the beck-and -call of moneyed interests does not serve the people or the national will.

    Hamstringing the NSA also neuters their technological providers or contract corporations. That government money goes elsewhere.

    The same with the War on Drugs or any other government programs. Follow the Money.

    It is just a corporate oligarchy with representatives bought by them.

    It is also happening to the EU.

    If you are happy with that kind of government just because the say what you want to hear, who is the nut case?


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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    He's well into the paranoid idea that "the powers that be" are constantly conspiring to screw him(the "regular citizen") over, and that political debate is nothing more than a show to hide the hidden power structure.

    Ie. a conspiracy nutjob. Unsurprisingly he endorses Ron Paul, the nuttiest of the bunch.
    Yeah, just like the NSA would never spy on all of us...

    Ron Paul 2012!!!


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