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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    Hah, I've thoroughly detailed why we can't fix healthcare and guns in a timely fashion using a lot more than just "we're American." That's always my point--it can't be done quickly. Like Monty said, there's no appetite in America at large to "fix" the "gun problem." You people spend more time worrying about it than we do, and as a result it would be political suicide for the Democrats to try anything serious on gun control. Its a non-issue. There are a million more important things to be done first, and political capital is limited.
    Your gun problem is a symptom of your wider cultural malaise - your healthcare problem is much more important.

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    Actually - India is a very good comparison - both former British Colonies which demanded independence and achieved that aim through a mix of violence and diplomacy - both with a deep seated hated for the UK. Lets be honest here - the average American may like "the British" but they HATE "Great Britain" and everything it stands for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Lets be honest here - the average American may like "the British" but they HATE "Great Britain" and everything it stands for.
    I think this explains why you seem to miss the mark so often when it comes to Americans.

    We love you guys. We spend all of our Euro bashing on the French.

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    I think this explains why you seem to miss the mark so often when it comes to Americans.

    We love you guys. We spend all of our Euro bashing on the French.
    That's why you represent us as snaggle toothed, hair-lipped idiots? As still beholden to a defunct aristocracy? Why are villains in American films so often English? We're represented as Craven because we aren't in love with Guns and the NHS has been claimed to operate "Death Panels".

    We ARE the ogre in your Constitutional Nightmare.

    It's so pervasive, you aren't even aware of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    That's why you represent us as snaggle toothed, hair-lipped idiots? As still beholden to a defunct aristocracy? Why are villains in American films so often English? We're represented as Craven because we aren't in love with Guns and the NHS has been claimed to operate "Death Panels".

    We ARE the ogre in your Constitutional Nightmare.

    It's so pervasive, you aren't even aware of it.
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    That's why you represent us as snaggle toothed, hair-lipped idiots?
    Wait, so do you mean characters that are explicitly British, or just any usage of the "British accent" at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    That's why you represent us as snaggle toothed, hair-lipped idiots? As still beholden to a defunct aristocracy? Why are villains in American films so often English? We're represented as Craven because we aren't in love with Guns and the NHS has been claimed to operate "Death Panels".

    We ARE the ogre in your Constitutional Nightmare.

    It's so pervasive, you aren't even aware of it.
    Seriously man, you're totally off on this one. Britain is the one nation that we consider to be a true friend. There's absolutely no animosity towards Brits here. None whatsoever.
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    If the US government wanted to reduce the number of firearms then an amnesty (I'm sure some are illegal even now) plus a voluntary buy back for firearms for those that chose to give up theirs.

    This isn't to remove all firearms just unwanted surplus as defined by the individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    If the US government wanted to reduce the number of firearms then an amnesty (I'm sure some are illegal even now) plus a voluntary buy back for firearms for those that chose to give up theirs.

    This isn't to remove all firearms just unwanted surplus as defined by the individuals.
    Such initiatives are rather good in theory and in practise for the individual. It allows you to get rid of your surplus or remove weapons from your household you simply kept for keeping as you were unable to pass it on or sell-on sufficiently.
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    They are only weapons if you use them as such. They are firearms, tools, to be used. Using the term weapons demonizes them and is frequently used by anti-gun lobbyist. Also gun buy back programs, while allowing individuals to get rid of unwanted firearms, cheat the gun owners out of a lot of money. Getting like 100 or 150 for each gun they bring in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    There's absolutely no animosity towards Brits here. None whatsoever.
    But we are allowed to thump our chests on the Fourth of July, and tell any Briton within shouting distance that "we kicked your ass."

    No hard feelings, though.

    And @rvg is quite right, Britain is our best and truest ally, hands down. We should probably stop dragging you into nation-building exercises.

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