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    This may not be relevant, but what exactly are those two flies doing in your signature, Brennus?

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    Default Re: I may be wrong but there is one very important thing that EB II lacks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Somnorum View Post
    This may not be relevant, but what exactly are those two flies doing in your signature, Brennus?
    Based on some of the things we've found (and others we're still scratching our head's over), I'm guessing it's a double euphemism for CA source code.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kull View Post
    Based on some of the things we've found (and others we're still scratching our head's over), I'm guessing it's a double euphemism for CA source code.
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    I think any kind of marketing prior to imminent release is a mistake. Let EB II be a little secret project until release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fallen851 View Post
    I think any kind of marketing prior to imminent release is a mistake. Let EB II be a little secret project until release.
    I think the OP refers marketing as in letting people now that they need more collaborators, not as in promoting the release of the mod.



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    the rights belong to ca and ... sega any active use to get eb out there without the games owners aproval can be constructed as a breach of the game engine owners s a violation of their author rights so to create such a team could endanger the project however if the magazines articles even tv shows and so forth come from outside and not at the request of the team (eg contacting through an organised team ) then the team can never be acused of violating the authors rights

    bragging rights over who created who is a dangerous field that puts in question one of the humans worst caractheristics their ego

    the team was already hurt when a group in south east asia was selling the mod as rtw 4th expansion pack after vikings in places like the phillipines and malasya that could have been blown off in the teams face and it was only discovered cause someone spending some holidays there saw it in a kind of street market

    furthermore the project isn´t and can´t be seen as a product so any marketing strategy can´t be created without infringing on ca rights so without their permission trying anything outside the dedicated comunities is a minefield hard to navigate even by those with knowledge in this specific area of the law it´s like a greek singer ripping off an italian authors song without giving him credit just because he uses another chanel of distribution and translated or has given another lyric to the song and called it it´s own

    so if the game creates enough buzz and the media considers it news worthy it´s ok if it doesn´t then it´s risky to do it as part of an organised effort

    i once presented the idea of crowd funding and it was rebuffed on these same principle that the game can not generate income or in anyway hurt sega and ca image (including taking buzz out of their new products so if ca asks the team might have to further delay the release into a more appropriate time schedule like not at the beggining of the summer and not at christmas time )

    just my personal input on this crazy schem

    also socialogically as someone pointed out creating a campaign before it´s ready is one of the newbie marketing mistakes cause if you can´t deliver people´s frustation will outweight the quality of the product wich is a very interesting point of view and perhaps someone should make a study on how much hypering up a game releases contributes to the companies bad name and the customers dissatisfaction and frustation cause we all know the real girl will never be able to live up to the expectations that you created in your mind for the past 5 years you´ve been in love with her and didn´t even had the guts to ask her out or even say hello

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    I think that the discussion in this thread: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...coming-release would be the kind of "marketing" that EBII would benefit from.



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    i created that thread and if it happens it must be done by individuals as individuals and not something being sprung out of the core of the team or they risk legal liability

    for instance youtube chanels can be considered dedicated comunities and therefore aslong as the owner thinks it´s usefull and interesting it comes with no strings attached but if the team contacts them oficially they can be held responsable for the damage done to the game engines owner hell even if the team is contacted by the owner of the chanel and they say something derogatory about sega even tough they didn´t initiate the contact they can be liable (altough far more easily defensable in court since there´s no way to prove intent )

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