Rome 2 Patches, Hotfixes, Betas and Such (patch 17 live!)

[easytarget]

To be honest, I spam them too ;) Always at max+ agents. The "+" comes from me converting the AI's agents.

haha, why on earth would you do that, i get 50 or a 100 of them running around just by converting them, kill literally 100's more because they annoy me - trouble is it's all a waste of money, and it turns Total War into something else, like a really stupid spy game

when i say it needs a tweak i'm being generous in my description

[easytarget]

If you are CA and you want to know how you can confirm w/o a shadow of a doubt your game is a failure?

When the org turns on you as well.

[Sp4]

Sigh, I see nothing about toning down the AI agent spam.

Mods.

[easytarget]

Yes, I know about mods.

The point for me is, how can anyone at CA honestly say they've played their own game and not have come to the conclusion this needs a tweak? And it would be easily done.

I've a better solution than mods, not play the game for say about 5 more patches. I've fallen back in love with ME2 running SS, so much better than R2 I seriously doubt I'll ever be back, and if they finished EB2 this year I can guarantee you I'll never be back. Time as I've said elsewhere is a much harder commodity to come by than, well, anything. So there will always be stiff competition in the gaming dept for my time, honestly R2 just isn't likely to make it back in.

[nearchos]

http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...ublic-beta-now
Hi all,

Patch 10 is now available for public beta by opting in through your Steam client.

AI armies passing through players armies zone of control nad back? over powered slingers? over powered AI agents? AI 1 settlement factions fielding armies just standing around their settlement? battles over in a few minutes? useless cav archers,( every time ive tried to play with a horse faction, the cav missile units 1. dont cause much damage 2. they are geting killed by the murderous slingers, 3. in a mater of minutes the infantry units of the AI have chase them in all over the map), and many others. Last night an AI army ambushed an army of my own fron the oposite bank of a river!!!! can you believe that???

I dont see any of these in the patch notes and i dont care about the barbarian city wall or the smouthenes of the egyptian coast......

For God sake are they serious? usualy i am playing the total war titles until the release of the next total war tittle ( 2 years average), but now after only 7 months i m geting my self geting dissapointed and boring every night i start my PC.

[CaptainCrunch]

... Last night an AI army ambushed an army of my own fron the oposite bank of a river!!!! can you believe that??? ...

[Slaists]

haha, why on earth would you do that, i get 50 or a 100 of them running around just by converting them, kill literally 100's more because they annoy me - trouble is it's all a waste of money, and it turns Total War into something else, like a really stupid spy game

when i say it needs a tweak i'm being generous in my description

LOL, somehow, I never run into this problem at the same scale as you. At most I've had about 20 of each agent type and that happened when playing as Seleucids I allowed my Eastern Satraps to rebel (resulting in many factions sending their agents into my territory). In most times: I have just slightly above my max.

The main reasons why I use agents: 1) to counter the AI's agents; 2) to push regions of my allies into rebellions [an authority focused spy + a dignitary work really well]; 3) crowd control (of AI armies) - any successful agent sabotage action will stop an army from reinforcing.

Money is usually not a problem in TW even on legendary difficulty (except at the campaign start, but then, agents are not a big problem either).

[easytarget]

I wish I had kept my latest CIG game, I'd of posted you a picture from it where 25-30 agents were standing around one settlement. This went on the entire campaign.

Don't waste time explaining to me the strategy of how to deal with this, that's altogether too obvious.

What we're talking about in this thread are bugs and/or game design issues that should have been addressed in patches.

[Slaists]

Here are the bugs I have found so far:

1. Archer range bonus seems to be bugged: http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...tch-10-beta%29

2. Skirmishers run into their attackers; the move towards the attacker seems to be the first move considered as part of the skirmish behavior: http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...into-attackers

3. One cannot exit ambush stance if an allied (neutral or enemy) army comes within reinforcement range: the stance button is grayed out: http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...-army-is-close

[Barkhorn1x]

Is stopped playing months ago. And now I'm close to stopping caring wether there's another patch or not.

Sad summation: Eye cand galore, plays like crap.

[Sp4]

Is stopped playing months ago. And now I'm close to stopping caring wether there's another patch or not.

Sad summation: Eye cand galore, plays like crap.

Yeah I've kind of arrived at that conclusion 5 patches ago.

[Slaists]

Yeah I've kind of arrived at that conclusion 5 patches ago.

To be fair to the CA, the campaign has changed a lot since 5 patches ago.

[Alcibiade]

Is stopped playing months ago. And now I'm close to stopping caring wether there's another patch or not.

Sad summation: Eye cand galore, plays like crap.

Same here, will stay in cryogenic stasis until patch 889 to see if the torches are still here.

[fallen851]

I stopped playing after patch 3.

[Hooahguy]

So out of curiosity, why are you still here?

[Sp4]

Hope! =(

Hope to read something positive? =p

[easytarget]

So out of curiosity, why are you still here?

This question could be asked of pretty much everyone wasting time in any forum.

[Hooahguy]

Not really, its not unreasonable to assume that people discussing a game have at least a modicum of interest in playing it. Except to gripe maybe.

[easytarget]

Think more broadly then, ask yourself if time spent on a forum is terribly productive given the other options you have available to you.

The answer is clearly no, anyone with a modicum of sense knows this, therefore the fact that we all occasionally hang out here for whatever reason is really beside the point and asking anyone in particular why they are here merely highlights the rather amusing fact that none of us should be here at all.

That, in a Waiting for Godot sort of way, makes me laugh.

[The Outsider]

Well I have to agree that it is not productive to hang out in a forum but I also don't think it should be pointless. I have been coming to these forum for the last ten years. Was it productive? No, but I really enjoyed it. I don't have anyone to talk about total War in real life. But here it somehow feels like home. That's strange really talking to all you guys that I have never met yet I somehow feel related to in some way. I guess that's the whole point of forums.

[Sp4]

I come here 2 minutes every day to check if the game still sucks. I don't believe I am wasting a lot of my time here.

And now, good night everyone, see you tomorrow.

[easytarget]

Well I have to agree that it is not productive to hang out in a forum but I also don't think it should be pointless. I have been coming to these forum for the last ten years. Was it productive? No, but I really enjoyed it. I don't have anyone to talk about total War in real life. But here it somehow feels like home. That's strange really talking to all you guys that I have never met yet I somehow feel related to in some way. I guess that's the whole point of forums.

You have in fact grasped my point rather well, there is no point to forums. To put that burden on them is silly.

We're here to kill a bit of time in between whatever else we're doing to talk about what for most us is a bit of a hobby, or at least that's how I view PC Gaming.

I'm just yanking Hoo's chain a bit simply because he placed a burned of participation that sounded a lot like you had to like R2 to be here, which is just absurd. So I thought I'd point that out by suggesting in broader terms there's really no point to being here at all, which is in fact the whole point.

So breath, kick back, enjoy yourselves, it's all good.

[Hooahguy]

I dont really see it as a waste of time if you enjoy/play/have an interest the game, I think it crosses over into the wasting time area when you dont play the game anymore/have an interest. I for one still come here because Im a mod so I need to make sure you folks arent slitting each other's throats or something.

[Myth]

If I weren't a mod/cm I'd still come here for hotseats and M2TW discussion. Especially once Stainless Steel 7 comes out. I just don't like the atmosphere in the TWC. Too many kids IMO. And since I'm not the type who will buy every TW title in existence, I like to learn more about the ones I haven't played. I'm still waiting to get a chance to play Napoleon for example.

I came initially because I tried playing Rome 1 like it was Heroes 3, so I got bankrupted and the AI Gauls steamrolled me on VH/VH. I came for advice and in particular, because froggy's guide to Rome 1 came on the first page of Google. I stayed to GIVE advice and to be part of the community, which is great. The patrons here are a lot more mature, most are older than myself (i'm 28). I can, and do learn a lot about history, warfare, politics and whatnot. And I've managed to give back in the form of advice, the hotseat guide, the mini guide to R2 etc. None of these has a relation with me being a mod, so I'd still come back here even if I ever got de-modded.

[Myth]

Actually, It seems I was ignorant. Apparently full conversion mods will be a reality for Rome II once campaign map modding is possible.

[ReluctantSamurai]

I thought this was a very revealing comment:

Not mod related but came up in the topic: CA is aware of how poorly Rome does as an Ai faction and are looking into it.

Ehhh...last time I checked, the game was called ROME II TOTAL WAR, yes? You would think the dominant faction of the era would be wiping the map with everyone....

[Myth]

I thought this was a very revealing comment:



Ehhh...last time I checked, the game was called ROME II TOTAL WAR, yes? You would think the dominant faction of the era would be wiping the map with everyone....

Oh no. That honour belongs to the Adriaei, Rhodos, Lybia and Pergamum.

[easytarget]

Especially once Stainless Steel 7 comes out.

Really? How did I miss this? Is there a rough ETA?

[Slaists]

Oh no. That honour belongs to the Adriaei, Rhodos, Lybia and Pergamum.

So true, LOL... I guess, Lybia makes sense given the game realities. Lybia has Carthage's roster (strong sword infantry that autoresolves well), yet much more defensible starting situation. So, they frequently come out on top.

[Sp4]

I dont really see it as a waste of time if you enjoy/play/have an interest the game, I think it crosses over into the wasting time area when you dont play the game anymore/have an interest. I for one still come here because Im a mod so I need to make sure you folks arent slitting each other's throats or something.

I literally come here to read about updates to the game.