View Poll Results: Should NATO be folded in favor of a European Union Defense Command?

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  • NATO should be folded in favor of a Unified European Defense Command

    8 33.33%
  • NATO should be folded, but no unified European comand is requied

    6 25.00%
  • NATO should be maintained as is.

    3 12.50%
  • NATO should be expanded to include all of NA and Europe.

    7 29.17%
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    Part-Time Polemic Senior Member ICantSpellDawg's Avatar
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    Default Re: Should NATO be folded in favor of a European Union unified command?

    Slavs love America. Its just Serbs who hate us and it happens to be Serbs on these boards. German speaking people tend to resent Americans for doing the same thing to the Russians that we did to them. Its good to see that spite governs your actions more than your own territorial integrity. You will definitely have s wonderful life living under the Hegemony of an increasingly autocratic Russian despot who relives battles from history in real time
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    Default Re: Should NATO be folded in favor of a European Union unified command?

    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    Slavs love America. Its just Serbs who hate us and it happens to be Serbs on these boards. German speaking people tend to resent Americans for doing the same thing to the Russians that we did to them. Its good to see that spite governs your actions more than your own territorial integrity. You will definitely have s wonderful life living under the Hegemony of an increasingly autocratic Russian hegemony who relives battles from history in real time
    The sad part is that Russia won't hesitate to crush the Serbs if the need arises. Ukrainians are far closer to Russians than Serbs will ever be, but that didn't stop Putin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    Slavs love America. Its just Serbs who hate us and it happens to be Serbs on these boards. German speaking people tend to resent Americans for doing the same thing to the Russians that we did to them. Its good to see that spite governs your actions more than your own territorial integrity. You will definitely have s wonderful life living under the Hegemony of an increasingly autocratic Russian hegemony who relives battles from history in real time
    I am the one who is many.

    Don't feel bad about it, it's nothing personal, we hate a lot of countries.

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    Default Re: Should NATO be folded in favor of a European Union unified command?

    US, UK, CAN, NZ, AUS: All these European Nations…

    The sad part is that Russia won't hesitate to crush the Serbs if the need arises. Ukrainians are far closer to Russians than Serbs will ever be, but that didn't stop Putin.” So Putin will finish the job you started?

    Mind you, Putin didn’t “crush” Crimea did he? USA liberating Iraq did it with far more damages for the civilian population, not speaking of the siege of Fallujah…
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

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    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    So Putin will finish the job you started?
    Bah, Americans think they're hot stuff and think they can pick a fight with us. Just ask the other nations that tried to pick a fight with us, ask them how it was. Ask the Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire, Habsburg Empire, Third Reich, Soviet Union... Oh, that's right, you can't - they don't exist any more!!! [EVILLAUGH]Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha...[/EVILLAUGH]
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    Default Re: Should NATO be folded in favor of a European Union unified command?

    Who is us?
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    Default Re: Should NATO be folded in favor of a European Union unified command?

    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    Who is us?
    United States, but not so capitalised.

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    Default Re: Should NATO be folded in favor of a European Union unified command?

    I think Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania would be somewhat worried if NATO broke up.

    Poland is somewhat too much EU-back garden for Russia to dare attack anytime soon though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    Who is us?

    Serbs, naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Serbs, naturally.
    The Serbs have been disgraced around the world. I know Serbians who tell everyone that they are Yugoslav because of what the Serbs did to the nations who were trying to rebuild away from their control. Nobody is picking fights with Serbs because you don't kick a dying dog.

    No offense, but it would be depressing to still live in Serbia or the Serbian Republic in Bosnia. Living in the past and tilting at windmills isn't going to maker Serbia better.
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    Default Re: Should NATO be folded in favor of a European Union unified command?

    So far, I find it interesting that the LEAST valued option is for NATO to continue as is. BR patrons are about evenly divided on "Fold" or "Expand!" No half measures here.

    I also find it intriguing that both PVC and ICSD view the treaty as a form of "entrapment" but one says it traps the USA and the other that it traps Europe.....
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