Being assaulted and robbed isn't very much fun at all

[Sarmatian]

My point was, you cant.

Zlatan is one of the worlds best football players (if not the best), his success have made every Yugoslavian kid dream of becoming the next him (as Zlatan is Yugo-immigrant).

Your point was, if I understood it correctly, is that the reason football fans are more violent than hockey fans in Sweden, since hockey fans are mostly ethnic Swedes while immigrants are more into football. That doesn't really make sense.

Basically, every single Yugoslavian in Sweden is hardcore into football, I think our youth national team has about 50/50 Yugos.

That's got more to do with the fact that you guys suck at football.

[Kadagar_AV]

Your point was, if I understood it correctly, is that the reason football fans are more violent than hockey fans in Sweden, since hockey fans are mostly ethnic Swedes while immigrants are more into football. That doesn't really make sense.



That's got more to do with the fact that you guys suck at football.

Bronze in WC '94, yey!! But yeah we suck. Not as bad as England, but we suck.

You understood my point correctly, more immigrants are into football, thus we have more problems around football than hockey games.

What doesnt make sense about that? please elaborate.

[HoreTore]

You understood my point correctly, more immigrants are into football, thus we have more problems around football than hockey games.

What doesnt make sense about that? please elaborate.

The simple fact that the hooligan firms who cause a stir at football matches also attend hockey matches.

Which you would have known, if you weren't ignorant on this issue.

[Kadagar_AV]

The simple fact that the hooligan firms who cause a stir at football matches also attend hockey matches.

Which you would have known, if you weren't ignorant on this issue.

HT, I'm honestly fed up discussing this with you here.

If it was the same hooligans, we would have as much problem in hockey as football, no? We don't.

REGARDLESS, immigrants ARE WAY OVERREPRESENTED WHEN IT COMES TO ASSAULTS AMONG OTHER CRIMES!!! Start talking about that and drop your absolutely ridiculous single example, that has nothing to do with OP, would you so please.

[HoreTore]

HT, I'm honestly fed up discussing this with you here.

This is how much I care about that:

If it was the same hooligans, we would have as much problem in hockey as football, no? We don't.

Nope, we do not. There are some occasional flares at hockey matches as well, but by and large they are peaceful.

That doesn't change the fact that it's the exact same persons we're talking about. If you want to know why they sit quietly at hockey matches while going bonkers at football matches, I suggest you ask them. As you have gone to "hundreds of hockey and football matches", you must know at least a couple of Ultras.

[Kadagar_AV]

This is how much I care about that:



Nope, we do not. There are some occasional flares at hockey matches as well, but by and large they are peaceful.

That doesn't change the fact that is the exact same persons we're talking about. If you want to know why they sit quietly at hockey matches while going bonkers at football matches, I suggest you ask them. As you have gone to "hundreds of hockey and football matches", you must know at least a couple of Ultras.

Kind of pathetic how you skipped the second part of my post, troll.

[HoreTore]

Kind of pathetic how you skipped the second part of my post, troll.

I'll deal with your other nonsense at a later time.

I prefer to deal with one ignorant argument at a time.

[Sarmatian]

Bronze in WC '94, yey!! But yeah we suck. Not as bad as England, but we suck.

You understood my point correctly, more immigrants are into football, thus we have more problems around football than hockey games.

What doesnt make sense about that? please elaborate.

I don't agree with HT here, I believe there's a difference between football fans and fans of most other sports. In England, most of the people who attend tennis matches are English and most of the people who attend football matches are also English. It's hard to explain different level of violence when ethnicity is the same.

Other sports lack the organized firms in general, and when they do have them, most of the time they're a continuation of a football firm.

So, Yugoslavians and other eastern Europeans, or darkies and Arabs, on the stands have little to do with that.