Thesis: forgiveness is the worst cruelty of all.
It doesn't come from me it's in this English movie 'Looking for Eric'. But there is something to say for it, it's a form of a personal denouncement to be forgiven for what you actually did. You are left thinking about what you did, out of touch with it, it doesn't matter anymore, even if you are really sorry.
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So it's better when it does matter for the rest of your life and you know that they hate you and want you dead?
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
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Was thinking about something more subtle than wanting someone dead; hurting someones feelings and be forgiven for it. Feelings will still be hurt regardless. How can you make things up if you are dismissed of any accountability, you no longer exist.
Edit, has nothing to do with me by the way, it's a musing
Last edited by Fragony; 04-13-2014 at 09:25.
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If you are dismissed and ignored, that doesn't sound like forgiveness, more like a lack of it.
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
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Hmm. During the Middle-ages, the worst punishment wasn't death, as you still belong to the community (and it helps if you believe in a futures after-life) but banishment. Being an outcast was worst than an outlaw, you were left alone to face dangers and life's uncertainties.
As forgiveness involvement, it depends on the level of morality or guilt is in the "bad" doing.
Last edited by Brenus; 04-13-2014 at 22:56.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
"I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
"You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
"Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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I forgive you, Fragony.
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Ouch that's like a billion upon billions of warning points!Originally Posted by Tiaexz
Our genes maybe in the basement but it does not stop us chosing our point of view from the top.
Pape for global overlord!!
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I forgive him.
ffs that was funny, kudo's
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I, for one... Vote for the Pulp Fiction basement scene as more cruel than forgiving someone.
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Have you been playing KotOR II?
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Played that, but no, it's a question from a really good friend of mine. Maybe you guys have better answers, it's haunting him right now.
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Sounds like he having trouble forgiving himself. There's nothing wrong with having regrets; if I for instance were to list all the things I wish I had not done, it would be a very long post. Life goes on though, and sometimes there's literally not a damn thing you can do about righting the wrong. In that situation all you can do is acknowledge that you were wrong, forgive yourself for it, promise yourself not to repeat the mistake, then move on. The ability to forgive yourself imho is absolutely crucial, as it also allows you to forgive others.
"And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman
“The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett
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3d grade philosophy.
Forgiveness as a cruelty? Hah! 1st world problems. Enjoy a proper dungeon, you spoilt brats.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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Will it support the Oculus Rift?
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
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The forgiveness is not for the wrongdoing
A rather self centered friend, if you ask me
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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Kreia was such a legit character, I almost wanted her to win.
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Clearly you haven't seen the tactics they had to resort to in Gitmo after they ruled out the sound-room and waterboarding. Forgiving the terrorists will make them be denied their glorious seventy virgins.
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