No Posts for two days in here

[fallen851]

Many things affect the popularity (or lack of it) of a forum. Loading times, presence of ads, quality of posts and moderators among them. Excessive presence of ads (and their effect on page loading times) is what kills twcenter.net for me, for example.

I would not attribute the present lack of traffic on this forum to the quality of RTW 2 in general. Simply, most folks who were originally here have migrated elsewhere (or stopped playing due to advanced age; I'd be in that category if I was not too addicted to TW games).

As far as I am concerned, ALL of the CA games are rather crappy upon release and get slowly improved with patches. Shogun 2 was bugged upon release as well. Rome 1 was no different on the machines of the time (and I'm not even talking about such bugs as subtracting shield value from the total defense of the unit rather than adding it). Don't remind me how bad and buggy was Empire Total War upon release. Come to think of it, that game never really got fixed.

There is legitimate arguments, then there is grasping at straws.

You're going to attribute the lack of traffic on this forum to "loading times, presence of ads, quality of posts and moderators" and migration?

You're missing the elephant in the room.

Rome II's problems aren't just bugs. The new features the design team choose to include as well as the old features they stripped out represent problems. They scrapped successful systems from Shogun II and replaced them with inferior ones. At Shogun II's release, you could see the potential. Sure it needed patches, but you could see it. It is hard for me to see potential in Rome II. There is no family tree, there is no real political system, naval battles were very poorly done, you can't easily send reinforcements to the front from the homeland... those aren't bugs, they were intended. They won't be "fixed."

Thus, there is a huge difference between the release of Shogun II and Rome II. Massive. Your post does not surprise me. CA apologists take all forms, and there arguments are almost always illogical, grasp at straws and miss the obvious.

If Rome II was a smashing success and people loved it and hailed it, it would drive people to this forum. I don't care about loading times, presence of ads, quality of posts and moderators. You even said yourself that you don't visit the TWC because of the ads and loading times. But here you are... so obviously the ads and loading times here aren't that bad. Is it the moderators? Because I think they do a very nice job. Quality of posts?

No, it is none of those things. People can blame whatever. They can say the whiners pushed people away. But where it does it all stem from? It all stems from the quality of Rome II. To ignore that, is just ignorant.

So we all really know why this forum is dead.