What are your cheapest core units to defeat Rome?

[kdrakak]

Well I'm currently playing a Sweboz campaign and they CAN definitely hold a line ;),even a against roman heavy infantry:
I usually pin them down with Dugundiz or Speudogordoz and use Clubmen to to kill them.

Speudogordoz are among the best Germanic infantry units, not "cheapest core". The principle is correct of course: gang up on them. However, if you are holding the line the attacker does the choosing. Why waiver that prerogative with a fast, high-stamina, barking band of beer-drunken and bloodthirsty Jerrys?
I would not really expect the Dugundiz to hold a line toe to toe against principes (which are pretty much same-tier units) under normal circumstances. But whatever floats your boat :)

[Thoras]

Speudogordoz are among the best Germanic infantry units, not "cheapest core". The principle is correct of course: gang up on them. However, if you are holding the line the attacker does the choosing. Why waiver that prerogative with a fast, high-stamina, barking band of beer-drunken and bloodthirsty Jerrys?
I would not really expect the Dugundiz to hold a line toe to toe against principes (which are pretty much same-tier units) under normal circumstances. But whatever floats your boat :)

It works if you block the Javelins ,with jugundiz, they can actually hold them with minimal losses,but most of my troops have 3 exp on default and my current main army(new campaign) has only silver chevrons.
Oh and they aren't holding the line for a long time I usually flank immediately,when fighting opponents with low morale I usually charge the enemy ;).

Speudogordoz are among the best Germanic infantry units, not "cheapest core".

Yeah I usually have only dugundiz ;) and the most of killing is done by the Slaganz .
But honestly by the time you get them you usually have enough money. ,my main point was that they can hold the line especially the Dacians and Sweboz.

[QuintusSertorius]

Just looking over the Qarthadastim roster again, and noting more Greek imitations; this time Parasim Libi-Ponnim (Liby-Phoenician Cavalry), who are Lonchophoroi Hippeis.

I wonder if I should just stow my dislike of AI Rome and give a Qart-Hadast game a go, just once...

[Thoras]

I wonder if I should just stow my dislike of AI Rome and give a Qart-Hadast game a go, just once...

Hmm I always though that it was too easy :Lot's of money and really good troops.

[kdrakak]

Hmm I always though that it was too easy :Lot's of money and really good troops.

It is too easy, but it's really fun to play if you role play and take your time.

[QuintusSertorius]

It is too easy, but it's really fun to play if you role play and take your time.

As people should know by now, I only ever take my time. I have no interest whatsoever in blitzing and finishing the game in 50 turns. I spent 50 turns just getting started in my migrated-Epeiros Bosporan Kingdom game.

Mostly what puts me off is being faced with stacks of not even remotely historical Romans (all Triarii, or all Leves), deployed in an ahistorical way too (a double line, no hint of a quincunx). Also the mix of Camillian and Polybian troops later on as they don't disband anything.

[kdrakak]

As people should know by now, I only ever take my time.

Very sorry... I didn't know... by now. But is that historically accurate? Did Quintus Sertorius take his time?