Europe

[Beskar]

you can't support the EU while calling yourself a democrate

You can. You talk about the EU as a construct which you are generally in favour for, and you talk about reforming the EU to make it better, such as increasing democratic accountability. The problem with the EU is that policy gets dictated by Merkel, Cameron and the like behind the scenes and not in the represented bodies who have to rubber stamp policy coming from the self-interest of powerful members of the Union. The increase of 'nationalism' actually gives more body to these individuals and works against a democratic union. It is like complaining about Oligarchy by voting to give more power to the Oligarchs, it makes no baffling sense. Giving more power to elected officials and voicing this at home will force the oligarchs to concede power or face repercussions.

Also in old idiom sayings, voting for the 'out of EU' parties is akin to throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

[Fragony]

You can. You talk about the EU as a construct which you are generally in favour for, and you talk about reforming the EU to make it better, such as increasing democratic accountability. The problem with the EU is that policy gets dictated by Merkel, Cameron and the like behind the scenes and not in the represented bodies who have to rubber stamp policy coming from the self-interest of powerful members of the Union. The increase of 'nationalism' actually gives more body to these individuals and works against a democratic union. It is like complaining about Oligarchy by voting to give more power to the Oligarchs, it makes no baffling sense. Giving more power to elected officials and voicing this at home will force the oligarchs to concede power or face repercussions.

Also in old idiom sayings, voting for the 'out of EU' parties is akin to throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

The EU is little bit to happy with getting under someone's skirt. And they are frankly unnecesary, everything allready worked.

[Beskar]

The EU is little bit to happy with getting under someone's skirt. And they are frankly unnecesary, everything allready worked.

Fragony, nothing has ever worked. That is more accurate~

It is all about making it working a little bit better than the attempt before it.

[Greyblades]

I dont know, the Roman empire was pretty successful for afew hundred years.

[Fragony]

Fragony, nothing has ever worked. That is more accurate~

It is all about making it working a little bit better than the attempt before it.

They thought that in 1848 as well. The EU will be the cause of war, not the answer to it.

They brought the cold war with Russia back, who denies that is an idiot.

[Beskar]

They brought the cold war with Russia back, who denies that is an idiot.

Actually, it is no way as simple as that. That was more Team America than the EU and also Putinism, so in short "they didn't" but that is not to resolve them of responsibility for their involvement in the matter.

[Fragony]

Actually, it is no way as simple as that. That was more Team America than the EU and also Putinism, so in short "they didn't" but that is not to resolve them of responsibility for their involvement in the matter.

For your consideation, who casted the dye really [url]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rQnXo2HMriQ[/url
No way Russia could not have reacted.
The EU caused this, EU army?.

Vefhofsta and van Baalen were payed to do this by the way, I can prove that very soon, they were payed by princess Leilla.

[Montmorency]

Conchita Wurst.