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    Default Re: Looking for info and tips regarding Koinon Hellenon

    surely Hippeis are really not that usefull, as they don't do that much in a Charge, have no AP and no Javelins. BUT they do quite well at catching cavalry and fighting them. They are still overpriced and not at all great, but their not useless, especially not as KH, who lack Cav Generals.

    Xystophoroi are however somewhat cheaper than Tessalians and just marginally weaker. They deliver a great Charge and are reasonable well armoured, sure they tire a bit to quick for EB tactics, but when you have ekdromoi or Hippeis to Keep the enemy occupied, it's doable. Generally KH has the Units to slow down the battle^^

    I'd put them a step below Curepos, though, since they have javelins.
    Yeah, that's fair. I was just listing Units trainable within the immediate Expansion area. Also, everybody knows Curepos are great :D

    So while not top 10 their cav outranks that of the other "A Scotsman on a Horse?" factions by far(sweboz, Saba, early Romani), while not being too far behind factions like to Lusotani, late Romani Casse or Pontos*.

    Edit: Oh I took to Long to post this:

    1. Depends, They have their Advantages, but without proper guidance they are bugged and tend to underpreform. However they are the historical choice plus they are Superior on walls.

    2. Pretty much, you could replace them as above or Reform your army to a barbarian style thorakitai army. But the Huge AOR makes insanely usefull.

    3. They fool the enemy into them being hit by a cavalry unit for about a second, then they notice it's just some Hippakontistai. So when you're not sure the enemy will rout on Impact, don't let them Charge in there. - I personally consider Peltasts a bit more reliable and they can double as Line infantry in a few situations. So I would not replace them ;)

    4. the best Garrison in game. And If you're desperate.

    5. Nah, they may not be as reliable but the AP does help at times(use them at the flanks, not the Center)

    6. They would help, they work well together with the heavy cav.

    7. Probably not, unless you want to rule the world, then you might aswell start there.
    btw when you take Kyrene and give it a 15-20 men garrison(garrison troops, not an elite army) it's great for distracting the AI, they will march through the desert, tieing up their armies and draining their morale.

    8. sometimes.

    9. The AI hates you when you have a common border, no matter their own strength. Plus they hate you by script.

    *unless you are good at using Chariots, then those are great and considerably better than KH ;)
    Last edited by Ca Putt; 06-04-2014 at 12:49.
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