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    Iron Fist Senior Member Husar's Avatar
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    That's all fine but then maybe you should not go in and expect them to love you after ten years. I think that is what PVC is trying to say indirectly. It's easy to blame them for not understanding you, but maybe it's because you're not really communicating it right.
    Or in other words, if there is a left way and a right way and you go down the middle, you may end up on rough ground.

    And I'm not claiming that any of this is universally true/applicable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    That's all fine but then maybe you should not go in and expect them to love you after ten years. I think that is what PVC is trying to say indirectly. It's easy to blame them for not understanding you, but maybe it's because you're not really communicating it right.
    Or in other words, if there is a left way and a right way and you go down the middle, you may end up on rough ground.

    And I'm not claiming that any of this is universally true/applicable.
    If the US, or any other nations, wants an occupied country to love them after 10 years, they have no choice but to do it as if they were occupying Washington DC.

    Anything less is going to make people hate your guts. And the US occupation of Iraq has definitely not been done the same way as if they were occupying parts of the US.

    Either change strategy, or suck it up and accept being hated(with reason).
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    If the US, or any other nations, wants an occupied country to love them after 10 years, they have no choice but to do it as if they were occupying Washington DC.

    Anything less is going to make people hate your guts. And the US occupation of Iraq has definitely not been done the same way as if they were occupying parts of the US.

    Either change strategy, or suck it up and accept being hated(with reason).
    Alternatively, do it the WW2 way and obliterate the enemy country in alliance with an infinitely worse partner, then occupy the obliterated enemy with you and your partner as direct comparisons of how life could be. You'll also need to wait for your enemy to invade someone first. So for PVC's plan to work, we should have bombed Iraq to the Stone Age after GW1, then occupied Iraq with Iran and Turkey having their own zones.

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    Doesn't that scenario also require that the USA wait until the other side declares war? And that the USA have no real air force to speak of.


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