Hostile Takeover of Washington is brewing

**Greyblades** · 06-22-2014, 19:40

Reform? Yes. Revolt? No. With america's track record with revolts armed conflict is the last thing that will solve it's woes, especially if it's the very portion of society keeping those 1% in power that's doing the revolting.

Edit: actually I guess if it is the republicans doing the revolting I suppose it could be beneficial, when the revolution inevitably gets itself massacred there'll be fewer obstructionist politicians in power.

**ICantSpellDawg** · 06-22-2014, 20:26

Originally Posted by Greyblades

Reform? Yes. Revolt? No. With america's track record with revolts armed conflict is the last thing that will solve it's woes, especially if it's the very portion of society keeping those 1% in power that's doing the revolting.

Edit: actually I guess if it is the republicans doing the revolting I suppose it could be beneficial, when the revolution inevitably gets itself massacred there'll be fewer obstructionist politicians in power.

This is an interesting sentiment, from the types of people who eschew firearms and alienate the armed forces. Who are your allies? Brutal "meritocrats" in government?

**ICantSpellDawg** · 06-22-2014, 21:51

Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube

If the Tea Party had popped up during the Bush years, maybe I'd have been convinced of some merit. As it stands, Obama is one of the better presidents we've had in generations (that's not to say he's a good president, though--we haven't had an objectively good president in a very long time, if ever). 99% of the vitriol spewed against him is pure unadulterated grade-A conspiracy-theory bullshit. The sorts of people who buy into it aren't smart enough to do anything other than support every stupid Cliven Bundy-like figure that comes along. All this talk about "We need smaller government!" lol. Government is weak and puny, the real tyrants in our society are corporations that can push the government around any which way they please, and they are empowered by the tea party garbage.

I agree, 90% of the garbage spewed about Obama is hogwash - BUT - to argue the absurdity that "Obama is one of the better presidents we've had in generations". WHAT? what were your main concerns about the policies of the past "generations of Presidents" that Obama hasn't continued or made worse?

Also, "government is weak and puny" and "nothing you citizens can do will ever stop the juggernaut that is government" (which you have suggested before) are inconsistent thoughts.

**Greyblades** · 06-22-2014, 23:23

Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg

This is an interesting sentiment, from the types of people who eschew firearms and alienate the armed forces. Who are your allies? Brutal "meritocrats" in government?

Oh just everyone who isnt stupid enough to fight to overthrow a government just because the republican politicians throw a tantrum, IE 95% of the population of your country. Seriously, it's Bobby Jindall, he's as much an indicator of popular american sentiment as NAMBLA.

**ICantSpellDawg** · 06-22-2014, 23:35

Originally Posted by Greyblades

Oh just everyone who isnt stupid enough to fight to overthrow a government just because the republican politicians throw a tantrum, IE 95% of the population of your country. Seriously, it's Bobby Jindall, he's as much an indicator of popular american sentiment as NAMBLA.

He is the governor of a State with 5 million people and a GDP the size of Finland or Greece.

**Greyblades** · 06-22-2014, 23:50

So is rick scott, and while they voted him in, I dont think everyone in florida is a psychopathic lizardman.

Besides, louisiana is a hardline red state and jindal was the only republican running, the only way they wouldnt have elected him is if he ate babies.

**ICantSpellDawg** · 06-22-2014, 23:55

Originally Posted by Greyblades

So is rick scott, and while they voted him in, I dont think everyone in florida is a psychopathic lizardman.

No, actually, Rick Scott is the governor of a State with 20 million and a GDP the size of Turkey.

**Greyblades** · 06-22-2014, 23:59

No, actually, Rick Scott is the governor of a State with 20 million and a GDP the size of Turkey.

It was a joke. Besides, louisiana is a hard line red state and jindal was the only republican running for two terms, they didnt elect him for his viewpoints and I dont see them following him into battle.

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 06-23-2014, 00:35

Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube

If the Tea Party had popped up during the Bush years, maybe I'd have been convinced of some merit. As it stands, Obama is one of the better presidents we've had in generations (that's not to say he's a good president, though--we haven't had an objectively good president in a very long time, if ever). 99% of the vitriol spewed against him is pure unadulterated grade-A conspiracy-theory bullshit. The sorts of people who buy into it aren't smart enough to do anything other than support every stupid Cliven Bundy-like figure that comes along. All this talk about "We need smaller government!" lol. Government is weak and puny, the real tyrants in our society are corporations that can push the government around any which way they please, and they are empowered by the tea party garbage.

Oy vey do I disagree as to the quality and direction of the Obama administration. The best of recent years was the thoroughly muzzled Clinton admin after the first midterm election and before the blue dress idiocy (as though THAT rose to the level of impeachable....stupid). Prior to that I thought Reagan did well for the first six years and Nixon policy wise might have done great things if he hadn't been a crook. Since WW2? Ike by a mile.