Restless crowns: forging empires [Late era -Skip a few]

[yuonyuon]

@yuonyuon will you keep playing? Simple yes or not.
Can you pls also ask Dur3x if he's leaving or not?

If not, can you ask when he intends to post his turn? (day and time).
@LooseCannon1 can you confirm whether you'll keep playing? Simple yes or not.

i quit , also Durex and Loose quit , he told me in PM , so we all three quit . for reasons unknown by average people.

ii will not post anymore or play in HS with these players > SONNET , TONNO, . and i don t remember insulting someone in here.so i got to go this is not for me

bye .

EDIT: i think i miss a line here. @sonnet i don t hate you at all . so don t think i made this decision being mad or something. i just anticipate that we are not going to have Fun here .

like you know me i m open to any kind of challenge . i don t have that loosing fear

[Tonno]

i quit , also Durex and Loose quit , he told me in PM , so we all three quit . for reasons unknown by average people.

ii will not post anymore or play in HS with these players > SONNET , TONNO, . and i don t remember insulting someone in here.so i got to go this is not for me

bye .

Oh nice... I wasn't planing to go join TWC ever again, but now I am really considering it.

[LooseCannon1]

Oh nice... I wasn't planing to go join TWC ever again, but now I am really considering it.

Tonno, you are always welcome at TWC. No one has any problems with you and you've improved over the years as a player. Remember how you tried to give me all your lands in one of the first games I was in? That's what led to the creation of the "faction suicide" rule.

But you're missing something important. Look at all the major arguments over there. Most of them consist of invicta vs Vasilefs, or invicta vs mordorru, or invicta vs. Mithridate, invicta vs. stouff, invicta vs me, and so on Now there have been other conflicts but do you see the one constant? After abandoning two games he set up last summer, invicta came back, replaced a player in an important medal game (Tyrants) and got in an agrument with Mithridate and Dr Mac claiming they were the same person (a TOS violation). He has since abandoned that game. Do you see the one constant?

Now, invicta, I turn my attention back to you. You tell me to post a one word answer to your "wall of text" Sorry, but you are not a moderator in this forum. You, also, don't seem to understand that you are not an admin of this game. You had no right to demand anything of Dur3x . (Nightbringer edited his comment and he apologized). It is not your place to look for new players. it is not your place to "demand" that people reply to you and only you. You stroke the fires of discontent. Yes, I have told yuonyuon, dur3x, and others that I will quit this game. I'm quitting if the admins and moderators fail in their duties.

[Auran]

Hello.

I was invited to play. If this thing is still going on, i'd like to take Castile.

[sonnet]

Tonno, you are always welcome at TWC. No one has any problems with you and you've improved over the years as a player. Remember how you tried to give me all your lands in one of the first games I was in? That's what led to the creation of the "faction suicide" rule.

But you're missing something important. Look at all the major arguments over there. Most of them consist of invicta vs Vasilefs, or invicta vs mordorru, or invicta vs. Mithridate, invicta vs. stouff, invicta vs me, and so on Now there have been other conflicts but do you see the one constant? After abandoning two games he set up last summer, invicta came back, replaced a player in an important medal game (Tyrants) and got in an agrument with Mithridate and Dr Mac claiming they were the same person (a TOS violation). He has since abandoned that game. Do you see the one constant?

Now, invicta, I turn my attention back to you. You tell me to post a one word answer to your "wall of text" Sorry, but you are not a moderator in this forum. You, also, don't seem to understand that you are not an admin of this game. You had no right to demand anything of Dur3x . (Nightbringer edited his comment and he apologized). It is not your place to look for new players. it is not your place to "demand" that people reply to you and only you. You stroke the fires of discontent. Yes, I have told yuonyuon, dur3x, and others that I will quit this game. I'm quitting if the admins and moderators fail in their duties.

You keep making things up..the HS you're referring (about Tonno), it was Hurin who wanted to give up all his lands (to Desley, and you asked a share of it btw..), not Tonno (who was playing as Norway). You keep launching accusations without caring to check your facts straight.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...=1#post9608640
Same goes for the rest of your post. But it won't bring anywhere.
@Auran :thanks, remember your turn will usually fall on wednesday and Saturday between 10:00-19:00 during which you're expect to play (within 19:00 pm, time in London, you'll have to translate that to your timezone)

[Lord Luka]

My vote also goes for a full restart of the HS (from turn 44) with a mandatory faction change for everyone so that the diplomacy would reset too.I would suggest cutting out the Kwazies and Cumans from the map and deleting TO as a playable faction unless maybe @Myth would join too.He said at the start he would join the next HS.I would like to se how he would preform :). That way we would have 12 playes with each one having his own subber and Nightbringer could still be the admin.

[sonnet]

It's fundamental to know, if we're going to restart, which players want to keep their factions at any cost (because it's your favorite or something of that sort).
I'm available to swapping and take whatever is left.
I'm ure Core-i7 wants to keep Venice.
I believe we need at least 3-4 more player available to swap factions (counting Auran is new anyway) to give a change to the game.

[Makrell]

I vote for 2. This game is still good IMO. (and i want my kievan rus :P )

[Tonno]

Tonno, you are always welcome at TWC. No one has any problems with you and you've improved over the years as a player. Remember how you tried to give me all your lands in one of the first games I was in? That's what led to the creation of the "faction suicide" rule.

But you're missing something important. Look at all the major arguments over there. Most of them consist of invicta vs Vasilefs, or invicta vs mordorru, or invicta vs. Mithridate, invicta vs. stouff, invicta vs me, and so on Now there have been other conflicts but do you see the one constant? After abandoning two games he set up last summer, invicta came back, replaced a player in an important medal game (Tyrants) and got in an agrument with Mithridate and Dr Mac claiming they were the same person (a TOS violation). He has since abandoned that game. Do you see the one constant?

Of course, I don't see a problem in that. Even I had a huge argument with him, where I was really innocent, and cuz of my ignorance I lost a stack of pretty good units. I was rageing like hell since my punishment was over the top, and I repeat I was innocent. ---> You see there's nothing wrong with arguments if something is done wrongly.

I don't support all his moves, or his leaving... most of the times I came to him and asked that he stays (it's not fair to join the game and leave it mid game- yes I am aware that admins can do wrong on anyone and then the only option is to leave). But when someone is right, well he is right.

Three persons you mentioned are KNOW cheaters and exploiters, if a new guy came to the HSing, and he said something against those three, I tell you now, I would side with him (that is before any arguments are made).

I really don't have much to add, it is simple for me: Everyone makes mistakes, that's where to real value of community comes out, is it a civilized democratic society, theocratic dictatorship or ego state.

EDIT
Thanks for the praise, but I didn't improve that much, I only reload like hell since it's allowed.

My vote also goes for a full restart of the HS (from turn 44) with a mandatory faction change for everyone so that the diplomacy would reset too.I would suggest cutting out the Kwazies and Cumans from the map and deleting TO as a playable faction unless maybe ... would join too.He said at the start he would join the next HS.I would like to se how he would preform :). That way we would have 12 playes with each one having his own subber and Nightbringer could still be the admin.

I don't like the idea of switching factions, but if some new players come, and the rest agree, I am ok with it.

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Auran takes Castille, we only need 1 player for Egypt if we cut Kwarezm. Id say its better than restart the hotseat.

[sonnet]

Auran takes Castille, we only need 1 player for Egypt if we cut Kwarezm. Id say its better than restart the hotseat.

Would anyone be fine if Tonno takes Egypt and keeps playing HRE until one faction between the 2 dies?
If everyone agrees, and has nothing against it, we can keep moving.
Most important answers are from @Jiub @Gaius Octavius Caesar and @Core-i7-inside as they're the ones at war with HRE.
This way no one gets free meal and at the same time you'll keep fighting the same guy.

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Would anyone be fine if Tonno takes Egypt and keeps playing HRE until one faction between the 2 dies?
If everyone agrees, and has nothing against it, we can keep moving.
Most important answers are from @Jiub @Gaius Octavius Caesar and @Core-i7-inside as they're the ones at war with HRE.
This way no one gets free meal and at the same time you'll keep fighting the same guy.

Im ok with it. But Egypt may atack Venice cuz of his war with HRE and thats not right.

[Core-i7-inside]

what's going on here? can you summarize it?

[sonnet]

3 solutions:
1-We find new players.
2-We cut the map (Kwarezm-Cumans area gone, possibly Egypt too. Considering it's only AR battles, the AI will still pose a considerable
threat to Russian and Turks)
3- we start again with 10 players (same save) cutting the whole russian/kwarezm area, removing so TO, Kiev and Kwarezm. We can choose factions again as long as we can fit it in a reasonable time-scale

[Tonno]

:D
For me number 3 sounds good enough. But we got to wait for other to see this.