Speaking of Israel...

[Sarmatian]

Israeli Official To Obama: ‘Leave Us Alone’

That doesn't mean leave us alone leave us alone. There is leave is alone plain and simple, and leave us alone after the money.

It's all in the nuances.

[rvg]

That doesn't mean leave us alone leave us alone. There is leave is alone plain and simple, and leave us alone after the money.

It's all in the nuances.

It's not the money really. Our financial and military assistance to Israel, that's merely the icing on the cake. Israel's greatest benefit from this relationship is total immunity from UN resolutions. We veto anything and everything even remotely threatening, allowing Israel to wipe its ass with world's opinion.
Now the real question is what we are getting in return for being saddled with such a hefty political liability. That's what Israel is to us: a political liability.

Anyway, as for the crisis at hand, the simplest way to solve it would be to allow Egypt to take over Gaza. Have their tanks roll in and establish a pre-1967 situation. If they don't wanna do it, pay them to do it. Bam: problem solved.

[Kadagar_AV]

And here silly old me thought it was conflicts like this that the UN was supposed to handle.


Make a clear border for both sides. The border would be protected with state-of-the-art UN soldiers, well equipped and trained to deal fairly with the situation.

I think that's the only viable solution. An alternative would of course be to use nukes to make that whole area a gigantic parking lot...

Oh well, nothing will happen as long as the US stay a Jew lackey.

[Hooahguy]

Ha, that will never happen even if the US dumps Israel as an ally. That would just make Israel more entrenched.

Either way, both sides are teaching their kids to hate the other side so nope this conflict can only end in eventual slaughter.

[Kadagar_AV]

Ha, that will never happen even if the US dumps Israel as an ally. That would just make Israel more entrenched.

Either way, both sides are teaching their kids to hate the other side so nope this conflict can only end in eventual slaughter.

That's why we need the blue helmets...

It's hard to convince your kid that that guy - who is ready to sacrifice his life for international justice - is a tangible target.




My point even shorter would be:

Israel and Palestine are like two children quarrelling, and it's time for a grown up to step in between them.

[Hooahguy]

I think its pretty easy. I know this from personal experience because in 2007, about a year after the 2nd Lebanon war, I toured the Lebanon-Israeli border and we saw some of the UN peacekeepers and our guide told us how the UN was basically protecting Hezbollah so they can rearm for the next fight. Now I know that they weren't, but 15 year old me soaked up every word that guide told us about how the UN was just covering for the terrorists.

Its too late for an "adult" to step in, the kids aren't ten years old anymore.

[HoreTore]

I think its pretty easy. I know this from personal experience because in 2007, about a year after the 2nd Lebanon war, I toured the Lebanon-Israeli border and we saw some of the UN peacekeepers and our guide told us how the UN was basically protecting Hezbollah so they can rearm for the next fight. Now I know that they weren't, but 15 year old me soaked up every word that guide told us about how the UN was just covering for the terrorists.

Its too late for an "adult" to step in, the kids aren't ten years old anymore.

Neutrals are well known bastards.

[Kadagar_AV]

I think its pretty easy. I know this from personal experience because in 2007, about a year after the 2nd Lebanon war, I toured the Lebanon-Israeli border and we saw some of the UN peacekeepers and our guide told us how the UN was basically protecting Hezbollah so they can rearm for the next fight. Now I know that they weren't, but 15 year old me soaked up every word that guide told us about how the UN was just covering for the terrorists.

Its too late for an "adult" to step in, the kids aren't ten years old anymore.

Well... I don't agree.

The UN isn't doing any full intervention, so what people would think might (would) change.


There will always be idiots, but remember that UN warfare is part "nation and education" building. You know, kind of like the US only that they actually mean it.


A full on western assault would cripple their resistance...

Now, I am not talking about weaponized assault, mind you.

I talk about politicians from all over the world having their public say, I talk about comedians world wide making up jokes about it, I talk about controlling their economy, I talk about.... The list goes on, but you get my point.


The UN military guys arent' the REAL show when it comes to the UN, it's the full on cultural assault that matters.

Again: sure there will be idiots... But right now they dwell in a society where they can play their idiocies... Whereas if the UN intervened for real, these same idiots would suddenly have a LOAD of other voices making themselves heard..

And people are not complete idiots, eventually they will listen. Specifically if helped by schools promoting critical thinking, HEY, something else the UN does.