Speaking of Israel...

[Fragony]

Dispicable things certainly happen, won't argue with that. But if you put everything on a more bigger scale, considering everything that happened since it became an independ state. We all know what happened. The whole Arab world turned on the. They did it again in 1968(?) and they get attacked on daily bases even in peace time. Hamas fires rockets to diberatily kill civilians, they may suck at it but they try. Not that Israel is a saint, no denying that they deeply wrong the Palestinians when it comes to certain thing. But my moral principle remains, one side wants the other dead. How do you treat someone who really wants you dead?

[Kadagar_AV]

Dispicable things certainly happen, won't argue with that. But if you put everything on a more bigger scale, considering everything that happened since it became an independ state. We all know what happened. The whole Arab world turned on the. They did it again in 1968(?) and they get attacked on daily bases even in peace time. Hamas fires rockets to diberatily kill civilians, they may suck at it but they try. Not that Israel is a saint, no denying that they deeply wrong the Palestinians when it comes to certain thing. But my moral principle remains, one side wants the other dead. How do you treat someone who really wants you dead?

Both sides wants the other gone, Arabs are just less tech and have shorter time spans on their plans.

[Fragony]

Both sides wants the other gone, Arabs are just less tech and have shorter time spans on their plans.

Plenty of Arabs live in Israel, whole neighbourhoods in Tev Aviv. Without denying that Israel is perhaps a tad too brutal I don't see them as the agressor. Let's put it this way, if the Israeli wanted the Arabs dead, they would be by now. If the military balance would have been different, Hamas having a great advantage, how much of the same courtisy would you expect Israeli's get. Their (hamas) charters are pretty clear on what they want. They are also a terror for their own people, apolitical palestinians are terrified of them.

Edit, just for musings sake, who are to judge them for holding on on some territories, they gave back a lot, AFTER being attacked by just about everyone in the region. It doesn't excuse the settlement policies but they earned that land imho.

Look at us Europeans https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WFYKrNptzXw

A lot of critisism is just unfair and hypocrite.