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    I started playing a campaign as them but couldn't be bothered after a while. Siege assaults are impossible cause you can't attack with your horse archers and your infantry is the worst in the game (I don't even know why they have any... probably to push battering rams), fighting heavily armoured units is a real pain in the rear. Basically, you want to become friends and not worry about anything Greek from turn one, although I can see factions like the Egyptians and maybe Seleucids not being so terrible cause they don't have quality hoplites.

    Still, late game, horse archers aren't that great and you have to combine them with the heavy cav you get as a Nomad faction (they have more or less the same roster) and I think I would try to expand West asap, get into the Celtic regions and recruit an army or two of mercenary Celtic swords and then come back for the hoplite spammers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4 View Post
    I started playing a campaign as them but couldn't be bothered after a while. Siege assaults are impossible cause you can't attack with your horse archers and your infantry is the worst in the game (I don't even know why they have any... probably to push battering rams), fighting heavily armoured units is a real pain in the rear. Basically, you want to become friends and not worry about anything Greek from turn one, although I can see factions like the Egyptians and maybe Seleucids not being so terrible cause they don't have quality hoplites.

    Still, late game, horse archers aren't that great and you have to combine them with the heavy cav you get as a Nomad faction (they have more or less the same roster) and I think I would try to expand West asap, get into the Celtic regions and recruit an army or two of mercenary Celtic swords and then come back for the hoplite spammers.
    The Seleucids DO have quality hoplites. They get Shield Bearers which are only a tad weaker than Royal Spartans but you can produce an infinite amount of them (and you can only get 6 Royal Spartans online)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    The Seleucids DO have quality hoplites. They get Shield Bearers which are only a tad weaker than Royal Spartans but you can produce an infinite amount of them (and you can only get 6 Royal Spartans online)

    Yes, but he's talking about horse archer faction chances of success against Seleucid AI. As far as the Seleucid AI is concerned, I have yet to see them field anything much higher than desert spearmen... Similar to AI Rome that still fields majority rorarii armies.

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    Yeah I was talking about SP. The AI rarely gets to the point where they will spam their highest quality units, which the exception for certain Celtic factions with their Oathsworn warriors.

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    Siege assaults are impossible cause you can't attack with your horse archers and your infantry is the worst in the game
    Are horse archers still restricted by a limited firing arc?
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    I am not sure but I don't think so. It may show an arc but they'll happily shoot anything in any direction when on the move. So will skirmisher cav.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReluctantSamurai View Post
    Are horse archers still restricted by a limited firing arc?
    Horse archers will get creamed by slingers in a siege assault of a major settlement.
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    Horse archers will get creamed by slingers in a siege assault of a major settlement.
    That's pretty much always been the case, even in R1. My question is referring to the firing arc I've seen in video clips. Is that still the case?
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