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    Money always determines where one lives - the point is it's not a government plot and that rich people of any and all ethnicity live wherever they like - e.g. the Chinese buying up large amounts of property in Manhatten. The problem is when those in the area don't want to integrate - they want the economic benefits of the state, but otherwise the culture of where they left.

    Interesting that on the poster it is the fact they are poor that is the problem, not that they are foreigners. We've imported everything - including our royal family. I imagine that this lot also loathed the unwashed masses just as much.

    No one has ever liked "foreigners" coming over here (wherever "here" is) taking our land / jobs / women / benefits / pubs (one can always find something) but the furore dies down when you can't spot "them" - it takes a lot of stamina to hate a group that to all intents and purposes are the same as your own - they have integrated. The more differences one chooses to have the more resentment one will have, probably at one extreme being merely the accent to the other being culture, religion, language and the desire to keep all of these things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    No, but can you rule out any intention
    There is no evidence to back up any intention.

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    Money always determines where one lives - the point is it's not a government plot
    It's definitely not a government plot - but it is government policy. Not the part about keeping immigrants together, but that about keeping housing prices high. Someone living in a nice area wants their housing price rising, which means they will oppose any measure likely to reduce the price of their home(like public housing or other social welfare stuff). These things will then be concentrated in certain areas, and the housing prices of those areas will be much, much lower than other places. Newly arrived immigrants lacking in funds will move there.

    It's not government policy to create ghettos, but the sum of other government policies and the desires of the population will create ghettos, even if nobody really wants ghettos. An example of the tragedy of the commons. It is possible to avoid ghetto formation(or rather, areas with very low housing prices) and create a city where the housing price is more equal across the entire city. This means you have to convince the wealthy to accept services in their neighborhood likely to drive prices down, and that's a tough ask.
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    To support the UK economy we need to have the latest bubble since we don't make enough real things we need to create fake money.

    I'd go further than "tough job" to "impossible" - those with loads of money will flit off elsewhere, those that remain will never forgive the system that "took" all that money out of their house price.

    I think that there are things that can be done to at least reduce the rate of house price inflation and reduce house prices and that would be to simply replace council tax bands with a flat percentage of the worth of the property - oh, I'm sure that there are those able to pay tens of thousands of pounds annually to live somewhere but most can't.

    But again - how does one impliment that? Suddenly making almost everyone in negative equity at the stroke of a pen. With something like a 10 year notice period and then a very slow increase perhaps it might work. Might loose a lot of votes as well of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    There is no evidence to back up any intention.
    If there would be it would be left out of the rapport because it's England. Same happened with the massive rape case were people with culture were involved. No less than 1300 victims but social harmony was too important.

    Social harmony, big lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    If there would be it would be left out of the rapport because it's England. Same happened with the massive rape case were people with culture were involved. No less than 1300 victims but social harmony was too important.

    Social harmony, big lol
    Come back when you have some actual evidence. You can't just point at some random school and say 'this is happening' without having any sort of evidence suggesting it is so.

    Further, the suggestion that these things will be hidden is ridicolous. The premise of the media coverage is the exact opposite, where they are exaggerating the issue and building a story of supposed islamisation(the exact thing you claim would be hidden).

    Paranoia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Come back when you have some actual evidence. You can't just point at some random school and say 'this is happening' without having any sort of evidence suggesting it is so.

    Further, the suggestion that these things will be hidden is ridicolous. The premise of the media coverage is the exact opposite, where they are exaggerating the issue and building a story of supposed islamisation(the exact thing you claim would be hidden).

    Paranoia.
    It's always defendable and you can always relativate it, taking in small peaces it's always an uphill battle for islamrealists. But in the meantime there are erea's all over Europe that you can call nothing other than islamised. This just one of the many examples.
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