How do you find naval battles after Patch 15?

**al Roumi** · 09-08-2014, 11:44

Originally Posted by Sp4

None of what they could change is going to change my opinion. I just don't want to have to fight them or have anything to do with them ^^

Sadly, that's just not realistic is it. You have to use navies in a Rome campaign, at least from the start again the Etruscans and then Carthaginians. Nerfing transports (which on paper sounds the right thing to do) means you really have to have an escort fleet in order to take the islands and make your landings in Africa. I don't think the long way round through Iberia (from Rome, not starting in Iberia as Hannibal did) has ever been a practical alternative.

They really ahd better impriove naval battles or they are in effect forcing a chore on players.

**Sp4** · 09-08-2014, 12:47

Originally Posted by al Roumi

Sadly, that's just not realistic is it. You have to use navies in a Rome campaign, at least from the start again the Etruscans and then Carthaginians. Nerfing transports (which on paper sounds the right thing to do) means you really have to have an escort fleet in order to take the islands and make your landings in Africa. I don't think the long way round through Iberia (from Rome, not starting in Iberia as Hannibal did) has ever been a practical alternative.

They really ahd better impriove naval battles or they are in effect forcing a chore on players.

Meh, just leave the Etruscans on their little island. I've never had a problem with sending transports over there either yet. They never built a navy to stop me yet.
As for the war against Carthage, yes, I take (or took in my last campaign) the land route. Syracuse was my ally though and I didn't particularly want to backstab them while the rest of everything that was even remotely Greek loved them. I also got an alliance with the Arveni because they were at war with someone in Cisalpina, so that kept them off my back while I rampaged through Spain.

In this campaign here, I built 3 navies, so I could get the requirement for naval units maintained at the end: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...onomic-victory

**Slaists** · 09-09-2014, 19:46

Artillery boats are interesting for invasions now since ballistas are harder to come by (civilized nations can build the workshop in capitals only and there are better choices for those building slots). For example, I used naval artillery (+ an invasion army) to capture Carthago.

**Anhur** · 09-12-2014, 22:06

Maneuvering in naval battles seems easier with patch 15 beta.

**Sp4** · 09-15-2014, 21:25

Originally Posted by Slaists

Artillery boats are interesting for invasions now since ballistas are harder to come by (civilized nations can build the workshop in capitals only and there are better choices for those building slots). For example, I used naval artillery (+ an invasion army) to capture Carthago.

Really? Barbarians can build them in every little town now. Or at least the Germans can.