Anti-abortionists don't believe that life begins at conception.

[HoreTore]

Yes, 1 seems the more logical choice, but I could imagine cases where mothers become anxious and have a late abortion without anyone stopping them even though the anxiety may just be temporary, like some people become anxious before they get married.

I just found a study that even cites financial reasons: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ions/?page=all

I don't really agree with ending a life for financial reasons unless it's an animal.

There's a whole batch of research on late-term abortions here if you're interested, including the report brutalized by washington post.

[Fragony]

There's a whole batch of research on late-term abortions here if you're interested, including the report brutalized by washington post.

Medical reasons are ok, so are mental reasons. But if you are just too lazy to make sure you don't get pregnant you just don't have the right to terminate a life. I am all for letting them watch the beating heart that's growing in their womb, and showing pictures of the fingers that are slowly developing. That is cruel, I know. Will probably traumatise them really bad. Suck it up, already shoved it up.

[HoreTore]

That serves no other purpose than the intentional infliction of pain.

[Fragony]

That serves no other purpose than the intentional infliction of pain.

Or not being very considerate, of course it cruel. But imho the stance on abortion is very old-fashioned, times have changd, more than enough foster-parents. It's a relic out of the sixties.

[HoreTore]

Or not being very considerate, of course it cruel. But imho the stance on abortion is very old-fashioned, times have changd, more than enough foster-parents. It's a relic out of the sixties.

Yeah, I heard there are no more orphanages any more.

[Husar]

Yeah, I heard there are no more orphanages any more.

Why is death preferable to an orphanage?

[HoreTore]

Why is death preferable to an orphanage?

Death assumes life.

[Fragony]

Yeah, I heard there are no more orphanages any more.

There probably are, but wouldn't you want to balance things out as a human being, there is no need for abortions, there are waiting lists for parents who want to adopt someone. Why kill anything really.

[Beskar]

Or not being very considerate, of course it cruel. But imho the stance on abortion is very old-fashioned, times have changd, more than enough foster-parents. It's a relic out of the sixties.

Sorry Fragony, there is a desperate need of Foster-parents here, and the ratio is at an all-time low.

[Fragony]

Sorry Fragony, there is a desperate need of Foster-parents here, and the ratio is at an all-time low.

Could be, I don't how it's in England, here is a waiting list.

[Husar]

With more EU-integration, maybe the English children could get Dutch parents, but then again the English do not want that.

[HoreTore]

Could be, I don't how it's in England, here is a waiting list.

The situation is mostly the same in every country: there is both a waiting list and a desperate need for foster/adoptive parents.

I'll leave you to figure out how and why.

[Kralizec]

Could be, I don't how it's in England, here is a waiting list.

You might be thinking of adoptive parents. There's no shortage of those. Foster parents = "pleegouders"; this often is a temporary arrangement for kids who need a temporary stay somewhere else, before a permanent solution is reached (either the real parents get their act together or a permanent replacement family is found)

My impression from Frags post, while acknowledging the fact that Fragolese is a very ambiguous language, was that he is against all abortions where the reason given is 'unwanted pregnancy', with the only exceptions being rape and such. I may be wrong.

I thanked this post for coining the term 'Fragolese'.