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    Default Re: Minor Proposal: Reduce the number of provinces in the British Isles

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    Don't reduce the number of provinces in Britain. But make the 8 provinces poorer - less income. Reflect the fact that Britain was less developed than Gaul before 14 AD (but better than Germania). That way the AI Pritanoi will be geographically safe when they dominate the island, but relatively poor, not an economic superpower rolling in gold.

    Even the Romans had a long, tough time turning Britain into a profitable concern. It wasn't exactly the Mother Lode of gold at the end of the rainbow.
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    Default Re: Minor Proposal: Reduce the number of provinces in the British Isles

    Quote Originally Posted by Titus Marcellus Scato View Post
    Suggestion:

    Don't reduce the number of provinces in Britain. But make the 8 provinces poorer - less income. Reflect the fact that Britain was less developed than Gaul before 14 AD (but better than Germania). That way the AI Pritanoi will be geographically safe when they dominate the island, but relatively poor, not an economic superpower rolling in gold.

    Even the Romans had a long, tough time turning Britain into a profitable concern. It wasn't exactly the Mother Lode of gold at the end of the rainbow.
    That's not really a solution to the issue, which I don't think you have really grasped. Which is not the British Isles being to powerful compared to other more developed regions during the period. Making the provinces poorer changes nothing for other regions that are not adequately represented when you compare them to the British Isles, based on historical importance and the number of factions that interact there.
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    I must agree with QuintusSertorius - British Isles seem to have to much provinces compared to the other regions, more important than Britain at that. 5-6 provinces is maximum in my opinion. On the other hand I mus agree that Brennus has done (and is always doing) simply AMAZING work with Britain (and other regions he has been working on). The passion, knowledge and profesionalism is mindblowing even for someone not interested in these regions. I would not handle any waste of his work therefore there is a question? Would it be possible to lower the number to provinces to 6 without major drawbacks for government system and province description (for example can province discription be "merged" with a small amount of work?).
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    Default Re: Minor Proposal: Reduce the number of provinces in the British Isles

    As a direct result of this thread the team has started to debate the number of provinces provided for each region. Bearing in mind the above posts and those from TWC, but in particular the logic presented by QuintusSertiorius, I have consented to stripping Britain of a province.

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    Default Re: Minor Proposal: Reduce the number of provinces in the British Isles

    Quote Originally Posted by Brennus View Post
    As a direct result of this thread the team has started to debate the number of provinces provided for each region. Bearing in mind the above posts and those from TWC, but in particular the logic presented by QuintusSertiorius, I have consented to stripping Britain of a province.

    QuintusSertorius, I take my Deal "crown" off to you (see the British Museum). Well done.
    Thank you for being magnanimous about it - thing is there was never any criticism of the very high quality of your work on Britain and Gaul - this was always about the balance of provinces available to the factions. Given the organic way things have developed, I wouldn't be surprised if no one has stopped and looked at the whole map and wondered how the provinces are allocated. I think it's a good debate for the team to have, I'm sure there are other areas which are either over-provinced or under-provinced.
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    Default Re: Minor Proposal: Reduce the number of provinces in the British Isles

    Good points. I think that the important thing to understand is that gameplay is the primary motivation for a potential reduction of provinces here. Personally, I think that 6 regions for the British Isles would be enough. Province descriptions shouldn't be removed, but merged and changed a bit when appropriate, because it would be a waste otherwise.

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