ISIS on the offensive in Iraq

[Fragony]

I just refuse to believe that you didn't know a site with that name would harbor some rather specific prejudices.

I just searched on google images, was not intentional

@HoreTore, answer is easy, performance. If a group performs (much) worse on school. But is also much more criminal, much more prone to mental diseases. Nobody denies that here, it are in fact social-workers who want the best for them who are ringing the alarm-bells, a lot of the criminal youths have a very low IQ, and often various psychosis

Fair game, girls are doing much better, but are still way behind Dutch girls.

[Sarmatian]

I just searched on google images, was not intentional

@HoreTore, answer is easy, performance. If a group performs (much) worse on school. But is also much more criminal, much more prone to mental diseases. Nobody denies that here, it are in fact social-workers who want the best for them who are ringing the alarm-bells, a lot of the criminal youths have a very low IQ, and often various psychosis

Fair game, girls are doing much better, but are still way behind Dutch girls.

They are behind because they come from different backgrounds. I see the same thing with Roma kids in Serbia. They lack proper environment in their early childhood so they are already lagging behind a lot when they start school. They need extra attention, which isn't always available, but if they do get it, most of the time they catch up in a few years.

The smaller number of Roma kids that do have normal environment in their early childhood on average perform the same as other kids.

[HoreTore]

@HoreTore, answer is easy

Then you should have no problems giving a straight answer. For example, is 1 IQ point enough to make a difference? What about 10?

[Husar]

Then you should have no problems giving a straight answer. For example, is 1 IQ point enough to make a difference? What about 10?

You have asked him this several times in various forms now. Either he does not want to answer this, or, in a strange twist on the given topic, maybe he cannot answer this because he lacks the IQ to understand the question. In school he would certainly not get a good grade for failing to answer the question five times and on IQ tests it would be a serious downgrade.

So Fragony, what is it now?

[Fragony]

You have asked him this several times in various forms now. Either he does not want to answer this, or, in a strange twist on the given topic, maybe he cannot answer this because he lacks the IQ to understand the question. In school he would certainly not get a good grade for failing to answer the question five times and on IQ tests it would be a serious downgrade.

So Fragony, what is it now?

The first thing that comes to mind is me having an uncomfortable take on things. A take on things that is offensive. I understand all that, and admittingly I talk too much in contempt. But at least I am not in denial when it comes to some things.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

The day I can read the validity and reliability tests that demonstrate beyond reasonable doubt that someone has developed a culture-neutral measurement instrument for IQ, then we can start considering these kinds of comparatives.

Until that point, we are more or less trying to calculate the weight of a bag of oranges using a meter stick.

[a completely inoffensive name]

The day I can read the validity and reliability tests that demonstrate beyond reasonable doubt that someone has developed a culture-neutral measurement instrument for IQ, then we can start considering these kinds of comparatives.

Until that point, we are more or less trying to calculate the weight of a bag of oranges using a meter stick.

Are you telling me that that Facebook test where I identified which polygon would appear next was wrong in saying I am the smartest man alive?

[HoreTore]

The first thing that comes to mind is me having an uncomfortable take on things. A take on things that is offensive. I understand all that, and admittingly I talk too much in contempt. But at least I am not in denial when it comes to some things.

This is nothing more than an attempt to avoid a direct question. I'll try again:

How large does the difference in IQ have to be in order to get a noticeable difference between 2 persons?



By the way, I know this question has an answer. I am not asking questions that have no answers here.

[Fragony]

This is nothing more than an attempt to avoid a direct question. I'll try again:

How large does the difference in IQ have to be in order to get a noticeable difference between 2 persons?



By the way, I know this question has an answer. I am not asking questions that have no answers here.

You allready got my answer, you just don't like my answer.

[HoreTore]

You allready got my answer, you just don't like my answer.

No.

You showed me a map (supposedly) showing varying levels of IQ around the world.

You have not told me what level of difference is necessary before you actually notice this difference. You may use the map if you prefer that over numbers(though I don't see why).

For example, is the slightly darker blue of Italy enough of a difference to notice a difference between Italy and Germany? What about Russias slightly lighter blue than Poland? Cameroons darker shade of red compared to Nigeria? Or will you only notice it when you go from colour to colour, ie. UK's blue versus Ghana's red?

And what is the difference between the colours, in numbers?


By the way, the average IQ on a dutch IQ test is 100, not 105. If it's anything but 100 in any country, the test is wrong.

[Husar]

The first thing that comes to mind is me having an uncomfortable take on things. A take on things that is offensive. I understand all that, and admittingly I talk too much in contempt. But at least I am not in denial when it comes to some things.

So when you never answer a specific question and reply to a quote with something that has absolutely no relevance to the question you quoted, you call that "talking too much in contempt"? I call that either an inability to come up with a proper response or changing the topic the entire time because you do not want to leave the territory you feel comfortable on, which so far is only the realm of very vague generalizations that you can only back up using vague links to nazi sites.

To be quite frank, to some extent HoreTore makes you look like a fool because he asked for a number somewhere around five times now and you always give him vague text in return. You made it worse yourself by saying the answer is simple and then not giving an answer that fits his question. If you think it is easy to answer his question, why did you not do it until now?