Restless crowns: forging empires [Late era -Skip a few]

[Makrell]

Unfortunately when factions start losing or the outlook of the war they started looked grim, they start finding excuse to not finish what they started. Childish as it seems, many can't stand defeat or get scared as soon as they smell it.

We can introduce financial penalties for player who are late (they can avoid that by either playin on time or make sure their subber sub them on time).

I think 1.5k for every 5 regions owned (so if you own 12 regions you pay 4.5k fine if you're late).

Unfortunately @dur3x just chose his subber @Emproment, and now asked me, one day and a hal after he was late to be subbed by me.. I'm not gonna sub him, but guys help me find replacements and we'll solve the problem once and for all.

NO
we will not fine players who are late, that only encourages people to play later than when save is ready. like Dur3x that per invictas rules have time intil 23:00 wednesday(tomorrow) he can wait till then, he should play now, but as per the rules he doesnt have to.

[sonnet]

NO
we will not fine players who are late, that only encourages people to play later than when save is ready. like Dur3x that per invictas rules have time intil 23:00 wednesday(tomorrow) he can wait till then, he should play now, but as per the rules he doesnt have to.

We switched actually. Like I mentioned you the days are not fixed, the time frame is instead.
So play in our time frame in the days in which hour turns are uploaded.

This was to facilitate players who are late, ironically as it seems, to avoid subbing as much as possible (with fixed days we couldn't have waited in any case, since one turns late means losing 3 days not just one, don't know if I'm clear, while with how we do things now we lose only one day and we can afford more easily to wait for players if those have important turns to play).
I think it was Vipman who suggested to skip the fixed days and just care for our time frame.

[Tonno]

I am against penalty for late players as well, but this...
It's simple, he could have said that he will play by the record cuz intention is here, we see he asked a subb for his turn. He was online twice, not a single note. Irresponsibility in things like this, it's just brainless.
@sonnet I got two replays from the messages I sent, both where nah to the invite.

[Makrell]

i play my turns as fast as possible, but i cant play them on my timeframe each day. ( i normally play within 8 hours after tavix)

[Myth]

I think you have us confused, nice to see action taken after number x final warning - I wish you all a pleasant hotseat.

Edit: Belated happy birthday Myth!

Thanks! But moderating always seems easier from the back seat

[Mithridate]

Thanks! But moderating always seems easier from the back seat

Absolutely true, moderation gets easier once you're consumed by darkness though

[Core-i7-inside]

I've been busy lately. From now on I'll be able to do my turn from 20:00 to 24:00(GMT+7:00) of everyday.

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Cant England sub this turn?

[yuonyuon]

no drama

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Drama police take action

[Core-i7-inside]

This was a fast HS, and it was. :<
So, now what? Is he going to do his turn?

[Tonno]

do not feed the drama llama

[puddingkip]

Guus quit the ing drama please (learned my lesson, can't express myself here) if all this drama continues I'll leave this hot seat.

[sonnet]

Cant England sub this turn?

Despite naming each other official subber, neither Dur3x or Emproment thought to share their respective pswd's.
This has been sorted though yesterday afternoon, and so now we have to wait that either Emproment or Dur3x decide to play.
@Tonno pls ignore Yuonyuon, there's no point in replying, just put him in the ignore list like I did already a while ago and all the problems are solved

[Emproment]

Hey everyone. I understand we are all waiting on me.

Sorry about this, but later today I have an intro to quantum mechanics test, so this HS has been the last thing on my mind. Possibly later today I will be able to sub. Possibly won't get to it until tomorrow as I have classes until 5pm today.

Sorry again for the wait!

Btw, Sonnet has the password and he knows very well what he could do to help Spain. So if you get tired waiting on me, just get Sonnet to sub.

[Tonno]

quantum mechanics test,

O you'll be hearing from me about his stuff... very nice!

[sonnet]

Btw, Sonnet has the password and he knows very well what he could do to help Spain. So if you get tired waiting on me, just get Sonnet to sub.

@Emproment there's no need for help. It all depends on your will to play the save.
Had you used the time you lost in those days in writing pms and this message you would have already posted the save.
The same goes for @dur3x ,who has time to play for other HS (which are not fast) but not this one.

Like I wrote many times, everybody is supposed to spend less than an hour to play the save. If you spend more, then there's something very wrong you must be doing.
And I didn't ask the pswd, and I found quite curious that Dur3x thought to send the pswd to me and not to the player he choose as subber and ask you first.

Oh..and of course I'm not gonna sub neither you or @dur3x, since when I spent my time to sub others, I got quite some unpolite pm's, particularly from you, rather than be thanked.

[yuonyuon]

bleahhhhh!! kids these days!

[Emproment]

I did send you nasty PMs.

But only because I loathe the fact that someone other than the admins has the admin password and views each save that has been posted.

Quite honestly it has taken everything in my power to not quit this HS already, so I hope everyone will forgive me when I don't make this HS my top priority. (Btw, I had to be subbed in all of my HS because of this test. I am not biased against this HS)

[sonnet]

I did send you nasty PMs.

But only because I loathe the fact that someone other than the admins has the admin password and views each save that has been posted.

Quite honestly it has taken everything in my power to not quit this HS already, so I hope everyone will forgive me when I don't make this HS my top priority. (Btw, I had to be subbed in all of my HS because of this test. I am not biased against this HS)

@Emproment :I don't have the admin pswd. (and obviously I don't se any save but mines, unless I have to sub and the player gave me his pswd).

Another fantasy accusation which I don't even know how you could come up with.
Unbelievable..
@Myth & @Nightbringer : pls confirm that you never gave me the admin's pswd, that I never ( or even tried) bribed you and that you didn't enact any sort of conspiracy to prevent Emproment from winning the game
@Emproment would that be enough, or do you have more of your smart conclusions you'd like to share with us..?

(Btw, I had to be subbed in all of my HS because of this test. I am not biased against this HS)

You just wasted more time to write your smart post, as also posted a save for another HS in TWC, and didn't play this one..

[Myth]

Only I and Nightbringer know the admin password. At some point sonnet knew the faction passwords to a few factions, but those have since changed.

Next post I have to edit for drama or for replying/feeding drama is getting a 2 day ban. Just an FYI.

[Emproment]

I hope everyone can see Sonnet's guilty conscious. I never said he had it in the first place.

Sonnet wins everyone; I quit.

[yuonyuon]

I hope everyone can see Sonnet's guilty conscious. I never said he had it in the first place.

Sonnet wins everyone; I quit.

Finally someone that have eyes to see.and mind to think.

[Vipman]

But only because I loathe the fact that someone other than the admins has the admin password and views each save that has been posted.

WTF???? You mean to say you think of something but write something else or what??

Do you have any proof sonnet was checking the saves except times he had to sub? It's yuon that admitted he checked other people's saves even when he didn't have to sub.

And Myth just said the passwords have been changed so invicta doesn't have them anymore. If you can't trust Myth who's been here on the org since who knows how long and it is we who joined from TWC, then you're just another bad loser. I can't believe this.....

[sonnet]

I hope everyone can see Sonnet's guilty conscious. I never said he had it in the first place.

Sonnet wins everyone; I quit.

What you wrote is clear, as it's clear you didn't make much effort to find a good excuse to quit.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

But anyway, you spammed my inbox with at least 10 pm's since the HS started complaining that France had lots of money and you were not having fun because of this.
You were in league with Yuonyuon,Dur3x and so on, and when he left (although Auran continued with the plan, and actually this might have favoured you as when I tried to convince Yuonyuon to stay,because you needed him, he said that it was useless to help you since your faction was dead anyway)-as Castille-that further penalized you (and , you smart thinking, blame others rather than him for abandoning you..) .
But what you missed, despite me making notice you, is that the only issue was that you got fooled by France (but for that you can only blame yourself, rather than finding others to blame). And for a player like Jiub to use betrayal, it means that he was at disadvantage , not you.
In skip-a-few HS, the biggest advantage/disadvantage is who start first on turn 3 (after the forced peace ends). An advantage that you had and that you wasted by trusting the guy. Had you and HRE attacked first the situation would have been completely reversed .
You kept complaining that you faction was weak, while your faction is one of the 2-3 that could take everyone else alone. TO is the weakest faction (and I warned the player before making the final choice).

Now you leave because all your buddies are leaving and you feel scared alone. But a good player doesn't rely on his buddies. Joining a HS counting on other's help is a loser attitude. Good players play like Lord Luka, by using the excellent diplomacy skills. Despite being in a much harder position (at the centre ) he did all the right choices at the right time. You had a top faction, and despite all your mistakes your faction is still alive,proving how strong is your faction.

But all in all you should play to play, not to win. This is a game, but it seems many are not capable of having fun and victory is all it counts for them. But running away won't make you a better player.

@Vipman :Emproment was trying to find an excuse to leave since many turns already. Just 2 turns ago he asked a change of pswd and threatened to leave the HS if the admin didn't change the pswd before his next turn came up. Emproment, Dur3x, Yuonyuon and LooseCannon were in the same league from the beginning.He hoped Yuonyuon could take France. Now that Legourou remained alone he feels lost. This is the reason is leaving, although he has not the courage to say it.

[Gaius Octavius Caesar]

Where are the players that play till the end even if they are losing.
Ive asked some ppl but i was refused. Id say lets put this on hold a bit until we ll find 3 players.

[sonnet]

Where are the players that play till the end even if they are losing.
Ive asked some ppl but i was refused. Id say lets put this on hold a bit until we ll find 3 players.

I can take England and leave the Turks free to be taken, if that helps to find new players (as Turks are supposed to be in better shape an so at this stage it might be a more desirable faction)

[Myth]

That's what I want to see, just talk about the actual hotseat. I always stick until the end, even If It's a hopless situation. For example late era Sicilly fighting the Moors (lead by Nightbringer) in a lead battle game.

We should start more games.

[Vipman]

Did Dur3x leave as well? I must have missed that.

I might as well let yuon have France if this way we can all carry on with the hotseat, but I understand if you guys don't want this.

[yuonyuon]

What you wrote is clear, as it's clear you didn't make much effort to find a good excuse to quit.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

But anyway, you spammed my inbox with at least 10 pm's since the HS started complaining that France had lots of money and you were not having fun because of this.
You were in league with Yuonyuon,Dur3x and so on, and when he left (although Auran continued with the plan, and actually this might have favoured you as when I tried to convince Yuonyuon to stay,because you needed him, he said that it was useless to help you since your faction was dead anyway)-as Castille-that further penalized you (and , you smart thinking, blame others rather than him for abandoning you..) .
But what you missed, despite me making notice you, is that the only issue was that you got fooled by France (but for that you can only blame yourself, rather than finding others to blame). And for a player like Jiub to use betrayal, it means that he was at disadvantage , not you.
In skip-a-few HS, the biggest advantage/disadvantage is who start first on turn 3 (after the forced peace ends). An advantage that you had and that you wasted by trusting the guy. Had you and HRE attacked first the situation would have been completely reversed .
You kept complaining that you faction was weak, while your faction is one of the 2-3 that could take everyone else alone. TO is the weakest faction (and I warned the player before making the final choice).

Now you leave because all your buddies are leaving and you feel scared alone. But a good player doesn't rely on his buddies. Joining a HS counting on other's help is a loser attitude. Good players play like Lord Luka, by using the excellent diplomacy skills. Despite being in a much harder position (at the centre ) he did all the right choices at the right time. You had a top faction, and despite all your mistakes your faction is still alive,proving how strong is your faction.

But all in all you should play to play, not to win. This is a game, but it seems many are not capable of having fun and victory is all it counts for them. But running away won't make you a better player.

@Vipman :Emproment was trying to find an excuse to leave since many turns already. Just 2 turns ago he asked a change of pswd and threatened to leave the HS if the admin didn't change the pswd before his next turn came up. Emproment, Dur3x, Yuonyuon ald LoserCannon were in the same league from the beginning.He hoped Yuonyuon could take France. Now that Legourou remained alone he feels lost. This is the reason is leaving, although he has not the courage to say it.

Sorry to say that is only your attitude that makes players to leave .every player that was not agree with you or at war with you was dragged in to a fight to the main forum an criticized by you .
of course he is alone and he don t feel to continue after all his possible allies was gone.
Tonno said "kick Durex and yuon" and we are gone
why is so bad to be a coalition in the west of the map like is one twice stronger in the east?
this is not the way to win a HS , this is not "diplomacy" . remember that you where first person that threat us to leave because your position was in danger.

" Legourou, Dur3x, Yuonyuon ald LoserCannon were in the same league from the beginning.He hoped Yuonyuon could take France. Now that Legourou remained alone he feels lost. This is the reason is leaving, although he has not the courage to say it."

yeap that it true ! i already admitted that.
@Vipman "It's yuon that admitted he checked other people's saves even when he didn't have to sub."
yeap that is true . but be careful i didn t "cheeked other people" so stop accusing me for nothing . i was official subber of Egypt and i had all the rights to and power to see the save .

i never see Sonnet to admit that he cheeked all the people saves even he knows half of them , you must be NAIV to think he don t do that .
England,HRE,Moors ,where subbed and "cheked by Sonnet i m 100000% i know because he subbed them at some point and in mater of fact I know half of the passwords many from him . ,,I that im not even play the game , how that can be possible .i know almost 10 passwords that was used or are still used.

i hop i was civil and honest enough that Mith will not delete my post. or BAN me like he said.