Tiaexz does a girly job and why Kadagar prefers to be grappled by burly fireMEN

[Fragony]

Yeah, because that is really such a bad thing when the entire economic model is based on constant growth. And do they get more if they are sterilized or too old?

See it as a game, what would you do

Economy has a perk when consisting of men

[a completely inoffensive name]

In 25 years, there will not be anymore "male dominated" fields because fewer men are getting college degrees.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/...-degree-by-27/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/201...io-in-college/

[a completely inoffensive name]

Also, you don't need to wait two decades to see if modern feminism is a success or not. Well, first of all there needs to be a definition of modern feminism. 1960s-1980s feminism is second wave feminism which we know ended more or less due to internal strife about pornography (among other topics) and the religious/conservative uprising of the 1980s. From the 1990s onward, "modern feminism" has been third wave. There are already growing backlashes to third wave feminism with varying degrees of extremist views (such as the misogynistic views of Kadagar). Whatever the actual products of "modern feminism" have been in the past 15 years, the image many have of it is akin to the view of Fragony. That is, that women deserve special treatment and to just be given positions and privileges for the sake of being a women. There seems to be (I put that in italics for a reason) very little discussion about men's issues from current strains of feminism (despite the assertion that feminism fights on behalf of both genders). Why is there no Federal council on men when men have successful suicide rates almost 4 times higher than women? Why do men make up 40% of college graduates when they are 51% of the 18-40something population? Why can't I paint my nails without having people look at me weirdly or questioning my sexuality?

Granted, even feminists I do not like will talk about the problem of "aggressive masculinity culture" repressing men from being able to express their feelings, which has a large degree of truth to it. However, most commentary about it features a lack of solutions or solutions that I feel won't actually connect with young men.

[HoreTore]

There seems to be (I put that in italics for a reason) very little discussion about men's issues from current strains of feminism (despite the assertion that feminism fights on behalf of both genders).

I don't know about the situation in the US(and the US is an extremely diverse country anyway), but from where I stand this is not true.

For the record, Norway does have a committee on men's rights. Proper rights, though, not the misogynist MRA bullshit.

[Kadagar_AV]

Also, you don't need to wait two decades to see if modern feminism is a success or not. Well, first of all there needs to be a definition of modern feminism. 1960s-1980s feminism is second wave feminism which we know ended more or less due to internal strife about pornography (among other topics) and the religious/conservative uprising of the 1980s. From the 1990s onward, "modern feminism" has been third wave. There are already growing backlashes to third wave feminism with varying degrees of extremist views (such as the misogynistic views of Kadagar). Whatever the actual products of "modern feminism" have been in the past 15 years, the image many have of it is akin to the view of Fragony. That is, that women deserve special treatment and to just be given positions and privileges for the sake of being a women. There seems to be (I put that in italics for a reason) very little discussion about men's issues from current strains of feminism (despite the assertion that feminism fights on behalf of both genders). Why is there no Federal council on men when men have successful suicide rates almost 4 times higher than women? Why do men make up 40% of college graduates when they are 51% of the 18-40something population? Why can't I paint my nails without having people look at me weirdly or questioning my sexuality?

Granted, even feminists I do not like will talk about the problem of "aggressive masculinity culture" repressing men from being able to express their feelings, which has a large degree of truth to it. However, most commentary about it features a lack of solutions or solutions that I feel won't actually connect with young men.

Has it?

I think around this Backroom and Frontroom, men have often shared their emotions and feelings, and been generally handed well.

Heck, looking around in my age group, 30-40 year olds... We have no problems discussing feelings. Neither with our spouse or with our friends.

I often heard women say they prefer to talk with men, as they are more sympathetic and less prone to backstab you afterwards.

I know me and the people around me are extremely open with stuff like this, so I don't understand where the idea that men cant handle feelings come from.

We don't act like ****ing drama queens around it though, but that's another issue entirely.


Also, we just had an accident in Sweden when some workers died. That's OK, it happens all the time and it's a known hazard of the job.

How come I never see feminists violently claim 50/50 gender balance in those jobs?

I agree with Frags, the feminist movement seem to only want a gender balance in the cool or finer jobs.

Men simultaneously go to the coal mine, gets killed once in a while, and frown some when they read about the new feminist ideas of equality in government and CEO boards.

[Husar]

Also, we just had an accident in Sweden when some workers died. That's OK, it happens all the time and it's a known hazard of the job.

You mean you never had an investigation or an improvement in safety standards?
And the families of the people who died just say it's okay?

[Kadagar_AV]

You mean you never had an investigation or an improvement in safety standards?
And the families of the people who died just say it's okay?

No no, that is done all the time. Men however accept that some jobs means you put your life at risk. Heck, in my own profession I have had 2 people I know get killed while training to further their profession.

However, some works will NEVER get a 0 rate in death numbers.

Construction and mining comes to mind, among others...

I dont' say we shouldn't do our utmost to protect these workers, you completely read me wrong.

I am saying that I find a lack of feminists fighting for females making up 50% of the work force.

[Montmorency]

Too easy.

And of course, historically-speaking, feminism tried to integrate the construction industry back in the '70s. Unsurprisingly, the meathead population was resistant, and the attempt failed.

[Kadagar_AV]

See it as a game, what would you do

Economy has a perk when consisting of men

See, what I love about Frags is that he is outspoken and once in a while absolutely kills the argument.

If anyone doesn't see the point in this, it's because you have worked in feminist controlled work settings, or have bent over for political correctness.




Another way to look at it:

When the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE comes, who are the top 10 persons you have worked with in your life you would form a crew with? It is about survival, you know, much like anything else. EVER.

I know what my crew would look like, and trust me, it's not 50/50 based on gender.

[Montmorency]

If anyone doesn't see the point in this, it's because you have worked in feminist controlled work settings, or have bent over for political correctness.

he killed the argument by - not making any argument whatsoever but coincidentally agreeing with what you maintain? Interesting.

When the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE comes

It's 0, because no one I know, male or female, is fit to survive an apocalypse by doing it the way you imagine. Stop deluding yourself, the only way to survive an apocalypse is to immediately form an ad-hoc community and utilize everyone's skills to the maximum. Making it a "NO GIRLZ CLUB" because teh menz are strong and brave and can shoot guns is wrong on literally every level.

[Beskar]

I know what my crew would look like, and trust me, it's not 50/50 based on gender.

You know, the survival of the human species requires fewer men than women.

If we are also speaking about the slow stumbler types, women can overpower them easy enough too. Force-equalizers like guns also level the playing field.

Anyway, you forget, the strongest parent is your mother, not the father.

[Kadagar_AV]

You know, the survival of the human species requires fewer men than women.

If we are also speaking about the slow stumbler types, women can overpower them easy enough too. Force-equalizers like guns also level the playing field.

Anyway, you forget, the strongest parent is your mother, not the father.

I think you read me wrong.

I said, what 20 people would you want to have in your CREW?

The CREW can pick up girls in the zombie apocalypse

Heck, the better the crew, the more girls we would be able to save. Ooooooooooooooooooooh PC incorrectness warning...

[HoreTore]

Why is it that bigots so often live in the world of a 13-year old?

[Fragony]

Why is it that bigots so often live in the world of a 13-year old?

I take it I am one of them.

Why do lefties always confuse what they want with what is simply so? Women do make it to the top if they have qualities that are required. Feminist movement should just shut up, you aren't entitled to special treatment just because you have a fleshwound between your legs.

The ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE is a fun one, if you consider the odds, what are your chances of survival. Just you, not the human species.

[Montmorency]

Feminist movement should just shut up, you aren't entitled to special treatment just because you have a fleshwound between your legs.

But they already are given special treatment. Feminists want you to stop giving them special treatment.

[HoreTore]

I take it I am one of them.

No, I wasn't talking about you Frags.

Anyway. As a white, heterosexual male, I will be preferred by employer before they even see my qualifications compared to those applicants who do not share those 3 traits.

I want that special treatment to end. I want to be judged on my qualifications, not on the way I use my penis.

[Sarmatian]

If anyone doesn't see the point in this, it's because you have worked in feminist controlled work settings, or have bent over for political correctness.

Is this a fancy way of saying that anyone who disagrees with me is wrong?

[Husar]

When the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE comes, who are the top 10 persons you have worked with in your life you would form a crew with?

I said, what 20 people would you want to have in your CREW?

Yes, I know, but I laugh about it myself, I'm silly and pedantic and a lot of other bad things.
Deal with it.