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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Moody View Post
    Also Hitler "far left" - you do know what the Nazis did to communists yes? The Nazi party were a right leaning party with some Socialist policies - describing them as far left is utterly bonkers.
    No it isn't, Hitler was a leftie, come to terms with it. He was a racist, which the (extreme) left also is today. Getting absolutily nuts about Israel while IS is sooooo much worse. United in silence.

    Not jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    No it isn't, Hitler was a leftie, come to terms with it. He was a racist, which the (extreme) left also is today. Getting absolutily nuts about Israel while IS is sooooo much worse. United in silence.
    Who is being Silent about IS? they are all over the news and finding any non Islamist organisation which supports them will be a tough.

    We hold Israel to higher standard because we expect them to behave better than Terrorist organisations

    As to Hitler http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ti...saying-he-was/

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    Give Fragony time. Just a couple of years ago, he believed that Hitler wasn't an anti-Semite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Give Fragony time. Just a couple of years ago, he believed that Hitler wasn't an anti-Semite.
    Show me.

    Some do though, Sebastian Haffner thinks of it as the greatest robbery ever, and Hitler needed the money for his expantion, could have mentioned him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    No it isn't, Hitler was a leftie, come to terms with it. He was a racist, which the (extreme) left also is today. Getting absolutily nuts about Israel while IS is sooooo much worse. United in silence.

    Not jews.
    Ugh, not that one again.

    Let's compare women's rights. It increased during Mao. It increased during Stalin. That about the same the time when the US choosed to delay their first person in space because it would've been a woman. Equal oppression if you like, since they were very much oppressors.

    It decreased during Hitler. And Mossulini, and Franco. Nonequal oppressors.

    The reason for that is fundamentally different starting drives. Some drives are indeed shared between facists and communists, but anarchists, libertarians and laissez faire also share drives, and they're somewhat different to eachother.

    The left liked Israel a lot more when they were the underdog (left always give a bonus liking to the underdog) and didn't occupy a people.
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    So Hitler was an extreme leftist because he was racist?

    Welcome to the extreme left, Frags!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    So Hitler was an extreme leftist because he was racist?
    Nope, he was a racist extreme leftist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Nope, he was a racist extreme leftist.
    In what sense was he a leftist?
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    In what sense was he a leftist?

    "We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions"

    Adolf Hitler

    Russia was just an enemy strategically (and not the master-race). A racist extreme-leftist.

    What Montmorency says could be true, don't remember it but I could have said it, as some historians say it was just a heist. Jews had a lot of money, and Hitler needed it. If I said such a thing it was a reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    "We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions"

    Adolf Hitler

    Russia was just an enemy strategically (and not the master-race). A racist extreme-leftist.
    Such a socialist:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitler
    The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength by the mass of numbers and their dead weight. Thus it denies the value of personality in man, contests the significance of nationality and race, and thereby withdraws from humanity the premise of its existence and its culture. As a foundation of the universe, this doctrine would bring about the end of any order intellectually conceivable to man. And as, in this greatest of all recognizable organisms, the result of an application of such a law could only be chaos, on earth it could only be destruction for the inhabitants of this planet.
    ...And this is directly from Mein Kampf, Frags. Your quote is not directly from a work of Hitler.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    Ugh, not that one again.

    Let's compare women's rights. It increased during Mao. It increased during Stalin. That about the same the time when the US choosed to delay their first person in space because it would've been a woman. Equal oppression if you like, since they were very much oppressors.

    It decreased during Hitler. And Mossulini, and Franco. Nonequal oppressors.
    Well of course things were different under Hitler's far left regime. Mao and Stalin were on the far right, after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajaxfetish View Post
    Well of course things were different under Hitler's far left regime. Mao and Stalin were on the far right, after all.
    Obviously, it was called "State Capitalism" after all.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Hitler promulgated "Strength through Joy", so he must have been a homosexual, right?
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    Nobody gets hurt because I don't like the Islam, people get beheaded for it every day though. Is there any relativationnreally required if we just kill these idiots, why are there jets, needs Apaches

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Jews aren't a race, so they're not being racist. Israel is competing for being one of the nastiest, most intolerant regimes on the planet.

    Oh, but of course they are only defending themselves and if only the Palestinians would just accept being second rate citizens / subhumans (depending on where they live) everything would be fine and dandy. For the Israelis - but no one else counts, do they?

    4 Israelis get killed and outrage - inhuman murderers! c. 2,600 Palestinians killed since the start of the year? Well, that was fine as they were killed by the IDF and so legal (in Israel) so what's the problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Nobody gets hurt because I don't like the Islam, people get beheaded for it every day though. Is there any relativationnreally required if we just kill these idiots, why are there jets, needs Apaches
    They sure do their best to be one...

    Talking about people who have done their damndest to keep their bloodline pure, Jews most def comes to mind.

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