Congratulations Sweden

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Yes, because England and Germany have 550 million and 800 million inhabitants respectively...

How does France get the reputation for "ooh-la-la" if you Germanic language types have been pumping out those kinda numbers since the end of the second global?!?

[Fragony]

We accept around 1% of our population a year to become Swedish, these are generally from the worlds worst hell holes. This is like if England would accept 550.000 immigrants a year, Germany would accept 800.000 a year...

It's just not working.

We already start to see cracks in the wellfare. We soon will have to chose between wellfare and massive immigration, seems like we can't have both.

Heck, already today immigration costs us at LEAST 4 times more than we spend on, say, the Swedish Defense Forces.


We just had a report by the police, saying we now have 55 ghettos where they have lost control, and normal functions in society often is problematic. Heck, in some areas you cant even drive in an ****ing AMBULANCE without the orcs throwing stones at it and the personel. You know it's bad when police have to escort the ambulance.

Heck, in some areas even the police asks for police escort, they don't dare to go in with just one patrolcar.

I don't know if an economic collapse will come, but we sure will have to accept that the "Old Sweden" is dead, and that we are unable to keep the wellfare system functioning.


About rapes, I find it rather natural that people from cultures where women are seen in rather bad ways, take this tendency with them. When they then come in contact with blonde girls with short dresses, well

Immigrants are extremely over-represented when it comes to rapes, and assault rapes and gang rapes have almost exclusively had immigrated perpetrators.

Look at the bright side, you could have lived in Southern France. Much worse. Can't think of an area in Sweden I wouldn't go, but especially Marseille oh dear.

[Sir Moody]

We accept around 1% of our population a year to become Swedish, these are generally from the worlds worst hell holes. This is like if England would accept 550.000 immigrants a year, Germany would accept 800.000 a year...

Just a note but we do - 560,000 this year (march 2013 to march 2014) - Germany does as well (1,226,000 in 2013) - what you are complaining about is actually normal for Europe as a whole...

[Fragony]

Just a note but we do - 560,000 this year (march 2013 to march 2014) - Germany does as well (1,226,000 in 2013) - what you are complaining about is actually normal for Europe as a whole...

And what is exactly the same trend in Europe as a whole? Kadahar is absolutily right, I don't know if his numbers are correct but the immigration of people who just rolled of the mountain, have absolutily no chance to ever be of any benefit, costs BILLIONS. In the Netherlands the cost of the leftist dream of a multicultural society costs 8 billion a year, that is just the cost of those who come anew, those who are allready here aren't in the equation. But what they allready have costed must be a pretty nasty number as welfare dependance, crime, and school dropping, are absolutily something to get worked about. In general, they suck at absolutily everything, no matter what generation. Getting worse actually. Their IQ is too low and they are only interested in fancy shoes and smartphones, and just grab what they want. That is not a generalisation. And everybody knows that.

[Rhyfelwyr]

In general, they suck at absolutily everything, no matter what generation. Getting worse actually. Their IQ is too low and they are only interested in fancy shoes and smartphones, and just grab what they want. That is not a generalisation. And everybody knows that.

What sort of immigrants are you talking about. Arabs I guess? They tend to do pretty well at everything in the USA.

"The vast majority of Arab-Americans are citizens of the United States. They are very much like other Americans, except younger, more educated, more affluent and more likely to own a business. Like any other immigrant group, Arab-Americans want to enjoy America's riches while preserving the important parts of their native culture."

[HoreTore]

8 billion is pocket change for any developed country, and Frags is still being a clueless racist.

[Fragony]

What sort of immigrants are you talking about. Arabs I guess? They tend to do pretty well at everything in the USA.

"The vast majority of Arab-Americans are citizens of the United States. They are very much like other Americans, except younger, more educated, more affluent and more likely to own a business. Like any other immigrant group, Arab-Americans want to enjoy America's riches while preserving the important parts of their native culture."

Because the USA actually has sensible immigration-policies, you have to be capable of something before you can be welcomed there, Sweden has none whatsoever. Their immigrants are mostly from hellholes like Iraq and Somalia. There aren't enough sheep to herd in Sweden for them to be of any use, and that's just about everything you can squeeze out of them. Too stupid to be of any use to Sweden. Reality is that they are harmful for Sweden, they bring crime and wealthfare-dependance, nothing more.

[Sarmatian]

Perhaps Sweden can serve as an example to others on what not to do...

"Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not cast your pearls before swine, for they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." Matthew 7:6

Amen.

Aren't you a man of Middle Eastern origin who's living in the United States? You should be the last one to criticise immigration.

[Fragony]

Aren't you a man of Middle Eastern origin who's living in the United States? You should be the last one to criticise immigration.

And the first to assume that he knows what he is talking about. As if islam is any different in the USA, it's the same thing everywhere.

[Sarmatian]

And the first to assume that he knows what he is talking about. As if islam is any different in the USA, it's the same thing everywhere.

But how can we trust a person of Middle Eastern origin? Their entire purpose in life is to ruin our way of life and the purity of our race by raping our womenfolk.

I don't know. I'm undecided on the whole thing until Francis calls a crusade.

[Fragony]

But how can we trust a person of Middle Eastern origin.

Easily and gracefully? Pick the one that sounds best when you rap it.

[HoreTore]

Aren't you a man of Middle Eastern origin who's living in the United States? You should be the last one to criticise immigration.

He is also of the largest immigrant group living in Sweden, ie. the ones criticized by kad and frag in this very thread.




(those immigrants they're talking about are not muslim, ya know...)

[Fragony]

He is also of the largest immigrant group living in Sweden, ie. the ones criticized by kad and frag in this very thread.




(those immigrants they're talking about are not muslim, ya know...)

My girlfriend is from Iran you twat, feel free to keep insisting on calling me a racist, it means absolutily nothing to me. I am not waiting for to be handed out a badge of aproval.

[HoreTore]

My girlfriend is from Iran you twat, feel free to keep insisting on calling me a racist, it means absolutily nothing to me. I am not waiting for to be handed out a badge of aproval.

Hello.


But meh, I see nearly all racism as grounded in the bourgeois disdain for the poor. You fit nicely in that category.

[rvg]

Aren't you a man of Middle Eastern origin who's living in the United States? You should be the last one to criticise immigration.

Middle Eastern and Slavic, yes. And yes, overall I love immigration, especially immigration to the US. Not muslim immigration though. You as a Serb should have a damn good idea of the damage muslims cause wherever they're in sufficient numbers. So no, I never did favor muslim immigration and never will. Non-muslims are an entirely different story.

[Fragony]

Hello.


But meh, I see nearly all racism as grounded in the bourgeois disdain for the poor. You fit nicely in that category.

It's normal that that lefties see racism everywhere, comes with the condition. Doesn't mean it should be taken serious by rational people. I am pretty horrible at being a racist really. Or maybe I am just not a racist. Lefties calling someone a racist is like a spell from a Harry Potter book; Racismus! All uncomfortable truths gone.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Because the USA actually has sensible immigration-policies, you have to be capable of something before you can be welcomed there, Sweden has none whatsoever. Their immigrants are mostly from hellholes like Iraq and Somalia. There aren't enough sheep to herd in Sweden for them to be of any use, and that's just about everything you can squeeze out of them. Too stupid to be of any use to Sweden. Reality is that they are harmful for Sweden, they bring crime and wealthfare-dependance, nothing more.

Your comments about immigrants having low IQ etc seemed like a racial comment. So is your complaint with immigration policy, or with the genetic quality of the immigrants themselves?

But meh, I see nearly all racism as grounded in the bourgeois disdain for the poor. You fit nicely in that category.

I think that's wishful thinking on your part. There's a reason parties like the BNP do well in ex-Labour strongholds.

[Fragony]

Your comments about immigrants having low IQ etc seemed like a racial comment. So is your complaint with immigration policy, or with the genetic quality of the immigrants themselves

It's just true, why they have such a lower IQ I do not know, inbreeding probably as most marry their direct family and the consequences of inbreeding are well known, and they have been doing it for centuries. Not my fault that that has consequences.

[Rhyfelwyr]

It's just true, why they have such a lower IQ I do not know, inbreeding probably as most marry their direct family and the consequences of inbreeding are well known, and they have been doing it for centuries.

So why do they do so well in America? Obviously, it doesn't come down to just genetics.

[Fragony]

So why do they do so well in America? Obviously, it doesn't come down to just genetics.

Because unlike Sweden the USA only accepts the capable immigrants, no skills, no greencard. Sweden lets in everybody because it makes them feel so good and rightious, from the worst places on earth. And it really shows what the difference is.

Gutmensch be gutmensch. Untill they can't find a 99% white school.

[Montmorency]

Because unlike Sweden the USA only accepts the capable immigrants, no skills, no greencard.

Categorically false.

[Fragony]

Categorically false.

Sure, they take refugees. Sweden got itselve into the trouble they are in because they let everybody in, the more useless the better as useless people are a good investment for the wellfare-industry who will always get to look after them. Bit like the broken window theory.

[Ironside]

Sure, they take refugees. Sweden got itselve into the trouble they are in because they let everybody in, the more useless the better as useless people are a good investment for the wellfare-industry who will always get to look after them. Bit like the broken window theory.

That's why the main driver for immigration to Sweden for almost a decade (doubling it) was a rightwinger who cut the money for the "welfare-industry".

[Kagemusha]

He is also of the largest immigrant group living in Sweden, ie. the ones criticized by kad and frag in this very thread.

Is rvg Finnish? Thats news to me.

[Sarmatian]

Is rvg Finnish? Thats news to me.

Finns don't assault rape. You guys are just guilty of driving the price of alcohol up.

[rvg]

Is rvg Finnish? Thats news to me.

Maybe I'm muslim?

[Gilrandir]

Saruman was white but he was an immigrant from the land of the Valar.

Not an immigrant. Sent on a certain mission. You may call him Bond. Failed Bond.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

.... Failed Bond.

Stop discussing the Greek economy in a Scandinavian thread.

[Fragony]

Double

[Fragony]

possibly, but if things are alike here. But they only needed workers. Not multiculturalism. They don't go all free but the left is guilty of living the dream. It's rediculous to deny that. I got a simple solution, people who vote for leftist parties should open up their houses, so people who are native Dutch don't have to live in trailers,as they do because all immigrants get priority. Seems fair to me. Live the dream, cope with reality, quid pro quo?