Spank your child and create a criminal

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 11-26-2014, 13:28

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Was lead really that big of deal? I always pause when I see someone bring it up. Same way with the whole "women starting having more abortions, so crime went down".

High exposure to lead causes brain damage, especially in infants and children - the argument is plausible and the data tracks.

What more do you want, a note from Jesus Christ?

**Kadagar_AV** · 11-26-2014, 17:29

Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

High exposure to lead causes brain damage, especially in infants and children - the argument is plausible and the data tracks.

What more do you want, a note from Jesus Christ?

The Romans used lead in the water system, and it's been theorised that this contributed to the fall of Rome... IIRC it effect the brain, and might cause mental problems.

**rory_20_uk** · 11-26-2014, 19:00

I have yet to spank my child and he is now 4. He knows right from wrong and rarely does wrong as he knows I will not be pleased and in some cases punish him, but I don't feel the need to hit him to prove a point.

I've seen American Dad, and I think that most moderate approaches are OK it is anything in extreme that is bad.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 11-26-2014, 22:17

Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

The Romans used lead in the water system, and it's been theorised that this contributed to the fall of Rome... IIRC it effect the brain, and might cause mental problems.

Low fertility too - lots of Roman Emperors had to adopt heirs.

**Noncommunist** · 11-27-2014, 19:01

Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

Low fertility too - lots of Roman Emperors had to adopt heirs.

But a lot of that was earlier on, during the apogee of the empire. And it may have helped the empire given that they could select worthy heirs rather than deal with entitled brats.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 11-27-2014, 20:27

Originally Posted by Noncommunist

But a lot of that was earlier on, during the apogee of the empire. And it may have helped the empire given that they could select worthy heirs rather than deal with entitled brats.

That's beside the point - Roman Emperors repeatedly FAILED to produce sons so they HAD to adopt.

Basically, their little legionaries weren't as effective as the full size ones.

**I of the Storm** · 12-06-2014, 19:01

OT, I generally mistrust any data that makes a connection between certain educational practises with children and random sociological topics with adults. Too far fetched and the matter is too complex imo.

Anyway, I don't spank my daughter, I've got other means of correction/education at my disposal. No need for physical violence. That does NOT mean however, that I don't feel the urge to do so from time to time...

I do spank my gf when she asks me to though ;-)

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 12-07-2014, 21:57

Originally Posted by I of the Storm

...I do spank my gf when she asks me to though ;-)

I believe the OP was focused on the correctional/educational, not the recreational.

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 11-26-2014, 22:18

Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

The Romans used lead in the water system, and it's been theorised that this contributed to the fall of Rome... IIRC it effect the brain, and might cause mental problems.

Heavy metals poison category: lead, arsenic, radioactives. They all do neural damage and then begin to tear into other systems. Lead is the least virulent of the heavy metals, but all will accumulate over time and the damage increases.