Attila 1st Impressions

[Bramborough]

@Jacque and Slaists, yep, some time after I wrote that post, I realized that the reason I couldn't move into that desolated capital was because of the exorbitant cost to do so (16K+ in this case). Which also explains why no one else has moved in to fill that vacuum. I guess I'm more content now with the concept of this particular mechanic...but still wonder if maybe they should fine-tune it by tweaking the cost down a bit.

I can see how early impressions of things like sanitation, family tree size, and a whole host of other things would be completely different for the big factions, compared a single-town-start faction like Saxons. Although I do think it's weird that Slaists' Geats (also a small-start) apparently had a more robust starting family.

For comparison's sake, I started with 3 male family members (one FL, one son FH, and one son-in-law), two of whom had wives (and I managed to fumble away 2 of the 3 guys in the early going, as earlier mentioned). I infer, Slaists, that your Geat family was larger than that?

[oz_wwjd]

My problem is that the upgrade system in the game locks out certain units. For example Limitani were the most numerous troops type of the Late Roman Empire, they featured prominently in every campaign waged in the West...yet they just disappear. Worse still in some circumstances the new troops upkeep,doesn't seem to be displayed,so I don't know what the upgraded troops are going to cost in upkeep.

Also Techs should not upgrade units to a different type. The gothic warband->falxmen were named as an example. Axemen to swordsmen is fine, as would be a two-handed axemen to a falxmen or something, but weapon and board units should be replaced with weapon and board, while two handed units should be replaced with two handed units. For this particular example I suggest adding falxmen as a unit unlocked by the technology but not replacing other units.

There's a 16 page thread on it here http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...d-game./page13. I don't like this at all,as ca said in a lengthy response that it was "

TLDR: This is a key difference with ATTILA to previous TWs, you have to think and plan far more for the mid-end game. Balance your tech research, carefully consider your trade-offs.

[I_damian]

It's CA catering to the people who want armies composed of awesome looking hollywood badasses. I shit you not I've seen people asking why Spartan Warriors aren't in the ERE roster. It's heart breaking.

[easytarget]

Thing is, you could have designed to both, they aren't mutually exclusive. You can have elites and the garrison style units.

[Slaists]

@Jacque and Slaists, yep, some time after I wrote that post, I realized that the reason I couldn't move into that desolated capital was because of the exorbitant cost to do so (16K+ in this case). Which also explains why no one else has moved in to fill that vacuum. I guess I'm more content now with the concept of this particular mechanic...but still wonder if maybe they should fine-tune it by tweaking the cost down a bit.

There is a trick to colonizing: the larger is the size of the army you are colonizing with the smaller is the cost for doing so. The mechanic is that part of your army settles in the colony and drives the cost down. So, a full stack of the cheapest yet largest size units (avoid cavalry, dogs, etc.) you get is the most cost efficient way to do so (the cost is around 8K for me).

I can see how early impressions of things like sanitation, family tree size, and a whole host of other things would be completely different for the big factions, compared a single-town-start faction like Saxons. Although I do think it's weird that Slaists' Geats (also a small-start) apparently had a more robust starting family.

For comparison's sake, I started with 3 male family members (one FL, one son FH, and one son-in-law), two of whom had wives (and I managed to fumble away 2 of the 3 guys in the early going, as earlier mentioned). I infer, Slaists, that your Geat family was larger than that?

Yes, my Geats start with quite a large family (several members idle) + some marriage age ladies to spare. I believe, several of king's offspring had their own children at the start of the campaign already.

[edyzmedieval]

I'm considering purchasing Attila, haven't pre-ordered because I wasn't sure whether my computer would hold up to it, but my question revolves around the ERE.

How balanced is the unit roster?

Back in the RTW BI times, they were equal to the Sassanids.

[edyzmedieval]

All right, I purchased ATTILA. Hopefully it will be a blast and that the Byzantines / ERE will be at least as much fun as they were in RTW:BI.

[Slaists]

All right, I purchased ATTILA. Hopefully it will be a blast and that the Byzantines / ERE will be at least as much fun as they were in RTW:BI.

Brace yourself ;) for the Sassanid spam.

[edyzmedieval]

Sassanid spam was actually present in RTW:BI as well, 75% of my battles were fought with them. So yeah, I have previous experience.