Ukraine Thread

[Viking]

That exact same article was posted on BBC's newsite. Several of its kind, in fact.

Stop being thick.

And thank you for having no humour. The similar BBC article I was able to find is far from identical. The RT article is poorly written; it is not made clear in the text why the claims made by this priest are news, something that is far from self-evident. Almost half of the article is spent on an exact quote of the priest, and most of the rest of the article is spent on quoting other people echoing similar views (which indeed makes it seem less like news). Only in the last two (out of nine in total) paragraphs is the yoga bashing over.

[CrossLOPER]

And thank you for having no humour.

Explain.

The similar BBC article I was able to find is far from identical. The RT article is poorly written; it is not made clear in the text why the claims made by this priest are news, something that is far from self-evident. Almost half of the article is spent on an exact quote of the priest, and most of the rest of the article is spent on quoting other people echoing similar views (which indeed makes it seem less like news). Only in the last two (out of nine in total) paragraphs is the yoga bashing over.

You are wrong. The articles are written in a similar manner with the BBC article having interpreted the quotes, rather than posting the exact quotes.

[Viking]

You are wrong. The articles are written in a similar manner with the BBC article having interpreted the quotes, rather than posting the exact quotes.

Which means they are not written in a similar manner; that's the crucial difference I am getting at. Whether lazy journalism or a dislike for yoga, it's poorly written. The BBC article contains context.


But there are more interesting matters to probe; like a German neo-nazi light appearing as a commentator on their shows:

Manuel Ochsenreiter is not a household name either in the United States or in his native Germany. He’s the editor of “Zuerst! German News Magazine” [...]

In a format familiar to readers of mainstream news magazines, Zuerst! promotes Neue Rechte and Völkisch ideas such as the preservation of “German ethnical (sic) identity”, burnishing the image of the Third Reich in popular culture and opposing what it regards as the humiliating legacy of denazification.

[...]

RT has singled Manuel Ochsenreiter out as their primary on-air spokesman for the German point of view, featuring him on talk shows and extended interviews on the network scores of times over the past four years.

[Husar]

The BBC has an atheist agenda, they want to make Christians look stupid because the demons that posses them make them do it. The world is the devil's domain after all and the BBC is firmly implanted in the world.

http://www.todayschristianwoman.com/...bout-yoga.html

See, the priest is not the only one warning people of New Age "spirituality" and the slow but dangerous ways in which the devil corrupts good christians while making them feel good to lure them further into the trap, and therefore right into hell.
The part where RT quotes people saying that they remained good christians is just more of the same "it's okay, you can engage in non-christian thoughts for a bit each day", that's how it begins and sooner or later you sacrifice some quality bible reading time for yoga class and miss out on the words of the lord. The idea of the articles is basically the same Viking.

[CrossLOPER]

Which means they are not written in a similar manner; that's the crucial difference I am getting at. Whether lazy journalism or a dislike for yoga, it's poorly written. The BBC article contains context.

It is EXACTLY the same. It cites several Catholic critics who state that practicing yoga is spiritually impure. It mentions that similar events have been noted in the past. It also includes a dissenting opinion by a practitioner. The only thing that the RT article does not do is mention Tai-chi or Reiki, which are tangents that the BBC author decided to include.

None of this matters because you simply wanted to point out how ridiculous RT is with this article, and I countered with an example of a BBC article that covered the same information. You are just arguing minutiae.

[Viking]

It is EXACTLY the same. It cites several Catholic critics who state that practicing yoga is spiritually impure. It mentions that similar events have been noted in the past. It also includes a dissenting opinion by a practitioner. The only thing that the RT article does not do is mention Tai-chi or Reiki, which are tangents that the BBC author decided to include.

No. This is what RT's article allows for yoga's defence:

One Derry yoga instructor, however, defended the practice, telling the Belfast Telegraph that teaching yoga for 15 years has not stopped her from being a “good, practicing Catholic.” Evelyn Donnelly said that her yoga students come to classes to "learn good posture and breathing to help them with tension in their bodies and to help calm a busy mind.”

"In all the time I have been teaching, not one person has ever expressed an interest going deeper into the spiritual elements of yoga," she added.

this is BBC's article:

Yoga teacher Norah Graham, who has held yoga classes in the area for about 20 years, said she was both offended and "a bit surprised" by the comments.

'Over the top'
She said she had spoken to Fr O'Baoill about the issue before and he had put an "embargo" on the advertising of yoga classes, so she was aware that he did not approve.

However, the yoga teacher said the strength of Fr O'Baoill's latest comments had come as a surprise and said she felt his remarks were "over the top".

Ms Graham, who is also a retired secondary school teacher, said she was not a particularly religious person.

She said the handful of people who regularly attended her yoga lessons had "their own beliefs" and religion played no part in her classes.

Ms Graham added that the practice of yoga in Western countries was now "largely divorced" from religious associations.

The parts negative to yoga are of similar sizes.

I could go on with other differences, but that's pointless. My issues with RT does not stem from articles like that, but issues like the one I mentioned in my previous post.

[CrossLOPER]

My issues with RT does not stem from articles like that, but issues like the one I mentioned in my previous post.

This is what I found on MO: http://rt.com/shows/tim-kirby/224567...lochsenreiter/
Can you tell me specifically what you find distasteful, or even disagreeable, without referring to the article you posted?

The parts negative to yoga are of similar sizes.

Yoga teacher Norah Graham, who has held yoga classes in the area for about 20 years, said she was both offended and "a bit surprised" by the comments.

Ms Graham, who is also a retired secondary school teacher, said she was not a particularly religious person.She said the handful of people who regularly attended her yoga lessons had "their own beliefs" and religion played no part in her classes. She added that the practice of yoga in Western countries was now "largely divorced" from religious associations.

That is the article edited down to the main ideas. The BBC article has 86 words, where the RT article has 85.

[Gilrandir]

This is what I found on MO: http://rt.com/shows/tim-kirby/224567...lochsenreiter/

This is what I found on Kirby's employers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuerst!

Immediately after its first issue the State Office for the Protection of the Constitution announced that the content of the magazine was against the "unending de-nazification efforts", advocating revisionist theories on national boundaries, and the terrorist activities of the "South Tirolean Freedom Fighters" in the 1960s.