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    in cases where X does not guarantee privilege
    What I'm pointing it is that from the social justice perspective privilege is guaranteed - by their definition. So challenge the definition rather than equivocating.

    I don't see what you are trying to say here.
    See above.

    just like we normally do not categorise people according to eye colour and talk about 'blue-eyed privilege' or 'green-eyed privilege'.
    Importantly, it's perfectly possible - though by-the-by blue-eyed privilege is a thing, since it's typically associated with blonde whites.

    There is, because wealth is relative
    That's beside the point, since we're not currently preoccupied with privilege through time, its causes and trajectories, etc., excepting the following.

    privilege or cultural differences?
    Well, privilege per se wouldn't be a cause - it's a symptom. The cause would include culture*, but an important part of the story would be what contributed to both the privilege and the culture, which would be one group's domination over another.

    *But I do agree that culture in the present day plays a significant role in the economic performance of underprivileged groups in societies, as per Max Weber. One of my biggest beefs with the social justice movement is that they attribute everything to culture except economic performance, and moreover manage to turn whites into perfect agents (taking agency as a concept for granted momentarily), stemming of the movement's libertarianism, but only when it comes to actions with respect to non-whites, who have no agency in that relationship. In all other cases, apparently, the roles are reversed, with marginalized ethnic groups having the agency. It's a true example of schizodoxia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    What I'm pointing it is that from the social justice perspective privilege is guaranteed - by their definition. So challenge the definition rather than equivocating.
    Definition of what exactly? They are not defining men by privilege, and they are not likely to have a different definition of privilege, either.

    No, this is not about definitions.

    Importantly, it's perfectly possible - though by-the-by blue-eyed privilege is a thing, since it's typically associated with blonde
    whites.
    Obviously, it is possible. What to take note of, is that what is advantageous varies from place to place. It is to say that 'X privilege' is an inaccurate concept (at best) since X might not be advantageous (in a non-trivial manner) or give the same or similar advantages in other places. So if you want to be accurate, you need to specify a place (society) where this privilege is supposed to exist, because even if a trait were beneficial in all known societies, this benefit is not likely to be uniform, but vary a lot.


    That's beside the point, since we're not currently preoccupied with privilege through time, its causes and trajectories, etc., excepting the following.
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