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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Yes, and remember that the Dali Lama is the same man as the original Dali Lama, who was a warlord who seized power from Tibet's secular princes with the help the Mongol Karkahn.

    So, according to his own religion, the Dali Lama is a war criminal.
    Apparently not if the secular princes were icchantika.

    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    As regards this - the Burmese authorities have always been quite clear about this - don't draw pictures of the Buddha. It's not hard - it's like saying "don't draw pictures of Jesus". It's meaningless to non-believers but it's also irrelevant to non-believers. If you immigrated to a country you need to follow the local laws and customs, something as true in Asia as Europe.
    I assume that's why we're best friends with Saudi Arabia. Just wear a burqa, it's not hard.

    Why don't we demand that Myanmar/Burma finally go with the times and accept our western values instead of staying a horrible religious backwater that's stuck in a medieval mindset and doesn't embrace freedom and democracy? As Greyblades said, when will New Zealand finally invade?
    And why does the world accept the Dalai Lama as a permanent immigrant instead of sending him back to where he came from? He should just accept the laws of the land where he came from instead of running around everywhere whining about how he is the real god-king of the ones he wishes to have as slaves.


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    New Zealand won't invade as Burma doesn't have enough resources to pillage or enough sheep to...
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    I must honestly say I get a bit offended when I see what is written about Buddhism, and the Dalai Lama...

    It's weird though, as I don't follow the religion, like, at all. Just like any other.

    I have however got a really good impression of the Dalai Lama we have now, non-religious as I am I still feel some kind of inner peace when I hear him talk, and many of his lessons have influenced me in what I consider a positive way.

    If I'd pick a religion, it would be Daoism... But then, I am perfectly happy having a loving dog and being appreciated and able to help in my immediate surroundings

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    or enough sheep to...
    ... herd?

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    ... herd?
    That is what I thought too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I assume that's why we're best friends with Saudi Arabia. Just wear a burqa, it's not hard.
    False equivalence - Not being allowed to mock a religious icon is different to not being allowed to show your face in public because you are a woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    False equivalence - Not being allowed to mock a religious icon is different to not being allowed to show your face in public because you are a woman.
    What equivalence? Did I say it's the same situation? It's a religious law in both cases that you are required to follow in the country. If the law in SA is even worse, it just strengthens my point that we are despicable people.


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    Not being allowed to mock a religious icon is different to not being allowed to show your face in public because you are a woman.
    In what pertinent way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    In what pertinent way?
    One limits Freedom of Expression, the other limits Freedom of Action.

    We limit Freedom of expression in the West all the time, where Husar is you aren't allowed to have a Nazi Flag, or anything that might look like a Nazi flag, this makes it rather awkward to make accurate Roman costumes and shields, as well as flags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    "Buddha said killing non-Buddhists isn't even murder and perfectly fine to prevent other religions from spreading in buddhist lands." Quite common in all religions. You shall not kill excepted (insert your choice)...
    Non-religious people do the same, and rightly so. Surely you agree you need to be able to kill in certain circumstances, say for example a war against Nazis or ISIS?

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    In what pertinent way?
    Why do you have to reduce everything to black and white absolutes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PVC
    One limits Freedom of Expression, the other limits Freedom of Action.
    Action and Expression are one and the same.

    We limit Freedom of expression in the West all the time, where Husar is you aren't allowed to have a Nazi Flag, or anything that might look like a Nazi flag, this makes it rather awkward to make accurate Roman costumes and shields, as well as flags.
    Many argue that this is a source of global embarrassment and chagrin for Germany, and that they should really just repeal those statutes if they are serious about not looking like an episode of Fawlty Towers.

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