Assault no. 2

[Montmorency]

Certainly, people should not be doubting what he has said without good reason to do so.

I'll leave it at this:

It is not clear to me that certain posters here know much at all about autism.

Though I do acknowledge that many of those affected by various conditions do not actually have much meta-knowledge about them.

[Fragony]

Got to be one to fully understand it, so I take your word for it.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I'll leave it at this:

It is not clear to me that certain posters here know much at all about autism.

Though I do acknowledge that many of those affected by various conditions do not actually have much meta-knowledge about them.

There is no reason to assume someone with mild Aspergers Syndrome (which is what Kad is describing) is either lying or a fantasist. Whether or not Kad understands the condition is irrelevant to the charge that he made up onr, or both, of the attacks he suffered in the last six months or so. There's also nothing else to suggest he's in any way disingenuous other than a spurious suggestion that it would DEFINITELY be the first thing he'd post whilst drunk because he MUST tell us right away.

So - cards of the table - the people here who think Kad made this up think he made it up because they believe he's a nasty Neo-Nazi and this is his personally racial revenge fantasy/domination complex/rhetorical lie to support his worldview.

I don't think he's lying because I see his uncharitable view of Arabs and Blacks, which I don't fully agree with, as a reaction to the results of unfettered immigration into Sweden (a problem widely acknowledged outside Scandinavia). I guarantee - if Kad had never met any Blacks or Arabs he would not hold the view he does.

[Husar]

All the digs at Kad's credibility and his personal life in this thread are a disagrace IMO. I don't shy away from arguing with him when we disagree, but I've never had any reason to dislike him as a person or attack his character.

I'm confident that what he said about himself is genuine because I have shared similar thought processes and experiences of life.

So what's your problem? An inability to read my last post where I said that what he said about his personal life sounds genuine?
Or an inability to see that I may have changed my mind on that issue?

I also think that people here under-appreciate what it is like to live in a community with clear ethnic/cultural divides. At my last job I knew a guy who lived in Pollockshields, the only Muslim-majority area in Glasgow. He lived across the street from where Kriss Donald was abducted by an Asian gang and burned alive purely because he was white. The guy I knew was paranoid and hated Asians and felt there was constant intimidation from them against white residents. Said he had problems with people hanging around his house because he had crossed some of them, and had had other run-ins in the past. I noticed myself living in a Proddy estate in Belfast that you do become aware of every street, what the demographics are etc. People who live in nice areas don't understand that working-class communities can be quite tight and when there are ethnic divides they like to mark their territory, even in this day and age. I've got stories that are a lot less believable than Kad's but they are true.

Oh yes, because we all live in villas in berverly hills and you have to represent the streets here.

Certainly, people should not be doubting what he has said without good reason to do so.

Well, some people think that nothing is beneath scrutiny and that questioning things can indeeed be a healthy exercise in order to find the truth.

There is no reason to assume someone with mild Aspergers Syndrome (which is what Kad is describing) is either lying or a fantasist. Whether or not Kad understands the condition is irrelevant to the charge that he made up onr, or both, of the attacks he suffered in the last six months or so. There's also nothing else to suggest he's in any way disingenuous other than a spurious suggestion that it would DEFINITELY be the first thing he'd post whilst drunk because he MUST tell us right away.

Oh that's a mighty victim card. Noone talked about him making up both attacks, where did you get that from? The whole Aspergers thing came up only after the assumptions were mentioned and the claim didn't look much more believable to me until he posted a more in-depth story that he has since edited out, but that's okay. As with Rhy, you may have missed or ignored the part where I said it sounds believable.

So - cards of the table - the people here who think Kad made this up think he made it up because they believe he's a nasty Neo-Nazi and this is his personally racial revenge fantasy/domination complex/rhetorical lie to support his worldview.

Think/thought, again, that was before he explained himself in more detail, Neo-Nazi is also a bit of an overstatement but I'm sure you like the effect it has.

I don't think he's lying because I see his uncharitable view of Arabs and Blacks, which I don't fully agree with, as a reaction to the results of unfettered immigration into Sweden (a problem widely acknowledged outside Scandinavia). I guarantee - if Kad had never met any Blacks or Arabs he would not hold the view he does.

If he had actually put some thought into this, and you may remember his claims of high intelligence and being a superior go-player compared to the less-intelligent chess-players and blabla, then maybe he could have figured out that not all Africans are gang thugs even in a world that is not as racially pure and segregated as you suggest. But the victim card is definitely strong in you.

You know, what if I happened to be a black muslim German who was proud to be a citizen here until you all told me that I am a stupid inferior thug who does not belong here? Lucky for you it is not the case, but you can't just look at the victim card from one side.

[Fragony]

Sweden just imports the worst of the worst, and expects from it's citizins to be to be figurants in their precious social experiment. I can perfectly understand that a lot of Swedes are pissed of because of just having to just deal with the consequences of a disproportional influx of immigrants from third world and islamic countries. The first are never going to be of any use, the latter don't to Swedish, they want Sweden to change.

[Montmorency]

There is no reason to assume someone with mild Aspergers Syndrome (which is what Kad is describing) is either lying or a fantasist. Whether or not Kad understands the condition is irrelevant to the charge that he made up onr, or both, of the attacks he suffered in the last six months or so. There's also nothing else to suggest he's in any way disingenuous other than a spurious suggestion that it would DEFINITELY be the first thing he'd post whilst drunk because he MUST tell us right away.

So - cards of the table - the people here who think Kad made this up think he made it up because they believe he's a nasty Neo-Nazi and this is his personally racial revenge fantasy/domination complex/rhetorical lie to support his worldview.

I don't think he's lying because I see his uncharitable view of Arabs and Blacks, which I don't fully agree with, as a reaction to the results of unfettered immigration into Sweden (a problem widely acknowledged outside Scandinavia). I guarantee - if Kad had never met any Blacks or Arabs he would not hold the view he does.

I could care less about the street encounter here.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I could care less about the street encounter here.

So what are you arguing about?

Also - It's "I couldn't care less". Really sick of people doing that.

[Montmorency]

Also - It's "I couldn't care less". Really sick of people doing that.

1. Americanism over Britishism.

2. Idiomatically-combined non-literality.

You might be interested in taking a look at:

Nunberg, G., Sag, I. A., & Wasow, T. (1994). Idioms. Language, 491-538.

I knew you would fall into this trap.

[Rhyfelwyr]

So what's your problem? An inability to read my last post where I said that what he said about his personal life sounds genuine?
Or an inability to see that I may have changed my mind on that issue?

It wasn't so much you I had in mind, I actually thought your post was meant to be humorous. Some of the attacks by other posters were a bit nastier and that's what I didn't like.

Oh yes, because we all live in villas in berverly hills and you have to represent the streets here.

Yes, you are correct, the natural inference of me raising the issue of ethnic divides in working-class communities must be that I am in fact a gangbanging homie who represents the streets and goes poppin' pigs with ma crew. Grove Street 4 Life homie.

Well, some people think that nothing is beneath scrutiny and that questioning things can indeeed be a healthy exercise in order to find the truth.

That shouldn't extend to questioning the character of fellow posters.

[Husar]

Yes, you are correct, the natural inference of me raising the issue of ethnic divides in working-class communities must be that I am in fact a gangbanging homie who represents the streets and goes poppin' pigs with ma crew. Grove Street 4 Life homie.

Exactly what I said, yes.

That shouldn't extend to questioning the character of fellow posters.

But they're only fellow posters to me if their character isn't questionable.

[Kadagar_AV]

Americanism is just a way of saying "improper language", Monty.

Husar, Sweden is accepting unpleasantly put... Somalis...Gypsies..

As "EVERYONE IS EQUAL" is the political motto of Sweden, we don't look to what type of people we accept. So we fill the country with people from problematic cultures. And the results are starting to show.



As to the attack on me, I just wanted to clarify, that I don't have brass knuckles... I have a Flexi leash (look it up) who in a pinch can WORK AS brass knuckles...

And yes, I feel I need to arm myself up as hard as I can, as I now have been "jumped on" 2 times this year... And one time the year before (I didn't write about that here though as nothing came out of it).

What Rhyf, has written mirrors my own views on as to why, together with Frags.


Oh, and I removed my post from before because those it mattered to had read it, and it really was too personal for me to want up on the internet... I have a saved copy if someone feel they need to read it, and I can PM it then.

Oh and Husar, I still don't like you. That should probably have been the only part I should not have edited out, so I note it again to be completely clear with my thoughts on the subject.

[Husar]

Husar, Sweden is accepting... ...

As "EVERYONE IS EQUAL" is the political motto of Sweden, we don't look to what type of people we accept. So we fill the country with people from problematic cultures. And the results are starting to show.

That may well be true but is not a reaon to stop all immigration or say that their behavior is typical of all Africans.

Oh and Husar, I still don't like you. That should probably have been the only part I should not have edited out, so I note it again to be completely clear with my thoughts on the subject.

That does not surprise me, you may have noticed that I'm not fond of the way you talk to me either. But that won't stop me from appreciating you sharing your personal thoughts. Not everything is either purely black or white in my world and I intend to keep it that way for now.

[Beskar]

On a serious note, really cut back on the racism. It is not cool, and not because my great grandmother was a gypsy either.

I have a Flexi leash (look it up) who in a pinch can WORK AS brass knuckles...

I will never walk my dog the same again.