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    Default Re: [Official Testing] Updated EDU with all the "unofficial" fixes and many others

    i just did Balearic slingers vs scutari spears

    2-4 per volley

    82 total


    and i realized would Drapani and Gaisatoi move as fast as skirmishers now?

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    Default Re: [Official Testing] Updated EDU with all the "unofficial" fixes and many others

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    and i realized would Drapani and Gaisatoi move as fast as skirmishers now?
    No, they're regular infantry and so have a speed of 0.83.
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    Big update coming soon, which should be used in concert with z3n's pathfinding/BAI changes. To give some more details of what to expect:
    • Some tidying up of stats; there were about ten units who hadn't been updated to the new morale setup (ie it was far too high).
    • Better unit cohesion, especially infantry, when used with z3n's pathfinding updates.
    • A complete overhaul of missiles; all skirmisher, missile and precusor-javelin using units had both their unit stats and their projectiles amended. No more ap for missile weapons. Archer and slinger ranges are more realistic. Users of the ankyle/amentum get an attack bonus on javelin throws, which needs feedback.
    • A revised approach to elephants.



    Of the things we've been looking to address, that leaves only chariots. In the upcoming formal release, you should see all these changes (possibly tweaked again if we get lots of detailed feedback), plus some new units.
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    I'm eager to see what you have achieved, come on, team! You are great!

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    Default Re: [Official Testing] Updated EDU with all the "unofficial" fixes and many others

    New EDU and D_P in the original post, a host of pretty significant changes, building on the feedback from the last iteration:
    • Some errors fixed; Ethiopian archers now have a loose formation; some units with the wrong morale values adjusted
    • Infantry speeds all adjusted; phalanxes are slow (but not as slow as they were); regular infantry share the same speed; skirmishers/missile infantry are faster
    • A wholesale update to charging distances, which combined with z3n's pathfinding should improve infantry cohesion
    • A complete overhaul of missiles; all skirmisher, missile and precusor-javelin using units had both their unit stats and their projectiles amended. No more ap for missile weapons. Archer and slinger ranges are more realistic. Users of the ankyle/amentum get an attack bonus on javelin throws, which needs feedback.
    • Increase in the number of soldiers for the Petere Fleet from 15 to 18 - which should skew auto-calc in their favour.
    • Elephant updates didn't make it in time, I'm afraid, I was keen to get this out rather than wait for them.
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    Default Re: [Official Testing] Updated EDU with all the "unofficial" fixes and many others

    Sorry to anyone who just started a campaign with EDIT8 - I've now sorted all the queries out and EDIT9 is fairly close to final in most respects. EDIT10 with elephant stats may be early tomorrow, it's being worked on now and I'm off to bed.
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    Default Re: [Official Testing] Updated EDU with all the "unofficial" fixes and many others

    One area in particular I'd like feedback (and will be testing myself) is javelin cavalry, but also javelineers more generally (skirmishers and precursors). A few times I've looked in on them, they've not been as effective (or consistent in throwing their missiles) as they were a while back.

    Could people take a look and report their observations (referencing which unit in particular you tried)?
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