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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    It's not that they are friends that makes them wrong, it's that I generally don't buy a lot of the "oh, but we men are also victims"-story.
    Which is largely the problem, people treat the "oh but we men are also victims" as were nothing more than a bid for attention even when it is a legitimate complaint. Even beyond the general Tumblr idiotry who hates everything white, straight and male, British and American society has become in places tipped against men. There is a trend of trivialisation of female on male rape especially statutory rape of young boys by women. Courts are overwhelmingly favouring women in child custody battles. False rape claims against women are non existant while men are being made pariahs by an overzealous media at the faintest hint of them raping a woman, innocent before proven guilty be damned.

    We walk in fear of a random woman brushing us when they pass and shouting "he groped me". We steer clear of areas frequented by chldren in case we are accused of being potential predators. We look at marriage as a trap where one wrong move will get us stripped of all our money belongings and even children at the word of a disgruntled partner. We fear because we are told again and again stories of these things happening and every time it is clear that men cannot truly win, ever. Legitimate or not these fears are real and permiate our day to day lives and colour our thinking.

    These are problems that are constantly overlooked and denied by the mainstream regardless of evidence and men are expected to shut up and take it while everyone else is free to complain about problems. Even while we deal with a suicide rate 3 times larger than that of women.

    Even if there is also some merit to it, and in some cases there is, it does not invalidate the point of anyone else, or make feminism superfluous as a whole. The idea that a man is seriously angry about the topic is already grounds for me to take him less seriously. And the equivalent example would be a nazi telling me that the sky is deep purple the entire day. The title "feminism is the establishment" already sets the tone and makes me roll my eyes a little.
    He is angry, his rhetoric is harsh, abrasive, he uses terminology alien to those unfamiliar to the subject, his personal narritive has devolved into an Us vs Them mentality and he is clearly frustrated. This is common among protestors who are being ignored and trivialized, which you are doing, and history tells us they dont go away with time.

    His logic is largely sound and his points are sourced, he is not saying the sky is deep purple, he's saying its overcast in spite of your protestations of a clear sky. If you keep dismissing him, turning off his videos 4 minutes in due to something so petty as swearing, he and his fellows are going to turn to the only people who will listen, the MRA and the actual nazis. Some of them are already beginning to, as you have shown.

    Oh, another thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I really enjoy the constant flashing of that "Sargon logo" in this video while they talk about improving channels, it's classy and absolutely not irritating at all.
    The flashing of the logo is a part of the format he uses. He has several videos where he converses with other people, both on his and the opposing side of his topics, and many of them do not have a video stream. They instead have thier logos show up when they talk and it is supposed to let the watcher differentiate between voices that are not distinct.
    Last edited by Greyblades; 04-12-2015 at 20:27.
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