Cal-state: northridge registration game.

[Greyblades]

Would you prefer that over just educating everyone or would you rather tell the rape victims that they should have watched their backs better and that you won't do anything about the ongoing rape cases?

I would prefer that the moral guardians would get thier message across without subjecting the majority of the students who are already not going to comit or abet rape to something that boarders on indoctrination. I also wish that the very people who scream bloody murder when they are unintentionally insulted wouldn't impose this level of insulting condescention upon others.

[Husar]

I would prefer that the moral guardians would get thier message across without subjecting the majority of the students who are already not going to comit or abet rape to something that boarders on indoctrination. I also wish that the very people who scream bloody murder when they are unintentionally insulted wouldn't impose this level of insulting condescention upon others.

I was trying to get some constructive criticism out of you, but all you give me are complaints without solutions.
How would you go about preventing rape on campus?

[Gilrandir]

How would you go about preventing rape on campus?

Separate campuses for males and females and no admission of the opposite sex.

[Greyblades]

How would you go about preventing rape on campus?

By realizing that in the field of crime aside from legalization there is no final solution, only management.

Let the people who are experts on the subject do thier work, put oversight on them if you must but make sure they are staffed by experts as well, and dont turn to people with agendas every time the police fail to give you a 0% occurance rating.

Separate campuses for males and females and no admission of the opposite sex.

[Husar]

By realizing that in the field of crime aside from legalization there is no final solution, only management.

Let the people who are experts on the subject do thier work, put oversight on them if you must but make sure they are staffed by experts as well, and dont turn to people with agendas every time the police fail to give you a 0% occurance rating.

People without agendas? Does that mean we need robots? I thought most of these things are already handled by experts, the experts in washington decided that universities need to be forced to do something to manage sexual violence and the experts at cal state decided this game/quiz is what they should do to manage the sexual violence. Either your points are already fulfilled or your solution was as vague as a politician's speech.

[Greyblades]

People without agendas? Does that mean we need robots? I thought most of these things are already handled by experts, the experts in washington decided that universities need to be forced to do something to manage sexual violence and the experts at cal state decided this game/quiz is what they should do to manage the sexual violence. Either your points are already fulfilled or your solution was as vague as a politician's speech.

...Wait, why am I on trial, the argument's on how the registration game is counterproductive, I dont need to provide an alternative to establish that.

[Sir Moody]

...Wait, why am I on trial, the argument's on how the registration game is counterproductive, I dont need to provide an alternative to establish that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campus_rape

Rape among collage aged women is far higher than the national average although interestingly non-enrolled Women of that age are more likely to be raped.

The age of their attackers however is collage aged men so if you want to reduce it they are the group to target with education.

[Greyblades]

Aye I saw that, it's why I edited out my question of statistics.

Again, why do I have to provide an alternative to establish this is a bad method?

[Husar]

...Ok then, Lets do this the long way and figure this out.

Foundation: You say there is a rape problem in campuses, I say there isnt, burden of proof is on the accuser; provide proof that rape on campus is elevated compared to the rest of society.

Why would I have to? There is still a rape problem on campuses even if it is not elevated because there is a rape problem everywhere.
But even so:

Is it so hard to google that and find the first expert piece on it?

http://www.popcenter.org/problems/rape/1

"Women ages 16 to 24 experience rape at rates four times higher than the assault rate of all women,"2 making the college (and high school) years the most vulnerable for women. College women are more at risk for rape and other forms of sexual assault than women the same age but not in college.3 It is estimated that almost 25 percent of college women have been victims of rape or attempted rape since the age of 14.4

http://www.safercampus.org/blog/2009...exual-assault/

The National Crime Victimization Survey found that about 3% of college women are raped each academic year,[2] usually by someone they know. The National College Women Sexual Victimization study estimates about 20 to 25% of college women are victims of sexual assault or attempted sexual assault during their college years.[3]

College students, because of their age, are a group at high risk for sexual assault, and some researchers believe that college women are more vulnerable than their nonstudent peers.[4] The National Crime Victimization Survey found no statistical differences in rape and sexual assault rates between women at college and women of the same age who are not students.[5] The finding of higher risk is based on the National College Women Sexual Victimization survey, which used a different methodology.[6]

“Women ages 16 to 24 experience rape at rates four times higher than the assault rate of all women,”[7] making the college (and high school) years the most vulnerable forwomen.[8]

[...]

Private colleges and major universities have higher rates than the national average, while religiously affiliated institutions have lower than average rates.[15] Students at two-year institutions (15.6%) were more likely than those at four-year institutions (11.1%)
to report they had been forced during their lifetime to have sexual intercourse.

I'd say a rate estimated between 20% and 25% constitutes a serious problem, that it is just as bad outside campuses does not mean it should not be prevented on campuses, more likely such programs should be extended to other parts of life, like make it mandatory to get a passport/driver's license or introduce courses at schools.

[Greyblades]

Yes, I realized what a stupid idea going down that path was.