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    I wouldn't mind UKIP stealing conservative seats. Then we will probably end up with a multi-party system which means STV might end up actually being implemented instead of the broken FPTP system.
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    The Left has triumphed over the Radical Left. I suppose it's the best possible outcome given the circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    I wouldn't mind UKIP stealing conservative seats. Then we will probably end up with a multi-party system which means STV might end up actually being implemented instead of the broken FPTP system.
    Because the most important thing is to oust David Cameron and install Ed Milliband in No.10 backed by Alistair Salmond, yes?

    UKIP stealing Conservative seats will mean nothing, if you had the SNP stealing Conservative seats or UKIP stealing a lot of Labour seats people might start to ask question but all that's happening here is UKIP is picking up the protest vote in England and the SNP are picking it up in Scotland.

    I think you'll find that this election will reflect the public mood, the Conservatives will come out on top but short of a majority because people don't really trust them, but they trust Red Ed and even less.

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    The Left has triumphed over the Radical Left. I suppose it's the best possible outcome given the circumstances.
    Quite the opposite, the SNP (the closest thing we have to a Radical Left, far Left of Labour) has taken fifty of the fifty-three seats declared in Scotland, with five left to go. Oddly, the Conservatives managed to hold their one Scottish MP.

    Edit: the SNP have taken 55 seats with one left to declare - it's hard to see this as good for Scotland as virtually the whole country is now represented by one partythat hold no seats in the wider UK. About the only thing this Bloc can achieve at Westminster is to bring down a government and trigger a new election as they've already said they will have no truck with the Conservatives.
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    I hope they trigger a new election soonjust so we can avoid talking about the upcoming US election.

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    I hope they trigger a new election soonjust so we can avoid talking about the upcoming US election.
    Sorry to dissapoint but it looks like, in the end, people were more afraid of the SNP than the Tories. Thus far the Cons have made a net gain of 20 seats, having lost 10, if the Conservatives win 27 of the remaining 44 seats they will have a majority, Labour will be lucky to hit 250 MPs, actually doing worse than last election under Gordon Brown.
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    Could somebody please explain to me in lay terms why UKIP got only 2 seats when they achieved 12%?
    I'm very much unfamiliar with the british election system, and I'd like to know how this works.
    Thank you.

    Also: quite the prediction fail this time, it seems.

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    so it looks like the opinion polls were HORRIBLE off...

    The Conservatives have already said they will now bring back the Communications bill giving the security serviced leave to spy on everyone - the boundary bill which effectively gives them another 20 seats for the next election - and a EU referendum...

    The liberals are utterly destroyed, Labour is weakened and the SNP are now strong but unable to make that matter... and no chance for a Voting reform now either...

    not looking forward to the next 5 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by I of the Storm View Post
    Could somebody please explain to me in lay terms why UKIP got only 2 seats when they achieved 12%?
    I'm very much unfamiliar with the british election system, and I'd like to know how this works.
    Thank you.

    Also: quite the prediction fail this time, it seems.
    It helps if you stop thinking about the parties and think about the people. Basically UKIP has a broad low level of support across the UK but they their individual candidates don't actually perform well, either because they aren't very good or because there's such strong feeling against them that all the other voters in the constituency band together and vote for one candidate to keep them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name View Post
    I hope they trigger a new election soonjust so we can avoid talking about the upcoming US election.
    Nah! Better one more referendum.
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    I think the tory tactic of scaring voters vis-a-vis a Labour/SNP coalition did the trick. Disappointing for UKIP in a way but they came second in a lot of northern seats and are now the main opposition in the rotten boroughs.

    Talking of the north, I see Ed Balls was castrated in Morley, which BTW I can see Morley Church from my attic. So every cloud.....
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    1. Could someone please summarize what the result will mean for Britain?

    2. Can someone explain how 12+% of votes gives so few seats? In Sweden it would have, proportionally, given around 80....




    I really don't get British politics... But it doesnt' seem very democratic from my point of view...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Because the most important thing is to oust David Cameron and install Ed Milliband in No.10 backed by Alistair Salmond, yes?
    SNP is not a poison party to me, I think the case for Scottish independence is growing and would be good for 'us' and them. Though David would have been better than Ed on the Labour front.

    Now, I am hoping for Tim Farron to lead the LibDems, he would make a good PM.
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