Ukraine Thread

[Brenus]

"someone from the West using this name in March 2014 exposes invalidity of the claim of spontaneous reaction by Russia." So, someone in the West using the word Novorussia is the proof that Putin had intentions? Whao...
"is an historical term of the Russian Empire denoting a region north of the Black Sea" From Wiki. So, every one with a little bit of googling would have been able to find it. Is the proof, as google used the word, that Putin had intentions? Wiki carries on saying : "The region was part of the Russian Empire until the collapse thereof following the Russian February Revolution in early March 1917, whereafter it was part of the short-lived Russian Republic; then, in 1918, it was largely included into the Ukrainian State; in 1918–1920, it was, to varying extents, under the control of the anti-Bolshevik White movement governments of South Russia whose defeat signified the Soviet control over the territory, which became part of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, within the Soviet Union from 1922. After the dissolution of the Soviet Union 1991, there have been attempts to revive the concept, with the most significant development being the pro-Russian separatist confederation of Novorossiya and the subsequent War in Donbass".

[Gilrandir]

"someone from the West using this name in March 2014 exposes invalidity of the claim of spontaneous reaction by Russia." So, someone in the West using the word Novorussia is the proof that Putin had intentions? Whao...
"is an historical term of the Russian Empire denoting a region north of the Black Sea" From Wiki. So, every one with a little bit of googling would have been able to find it. Is the proof, as google used the word, that Putin had intentions?

So what you basically claim is that "someone in the West" looked through wikipedia before March 9 2014 and came up with the idea that Putin would look through it too and use the historic nomen in his attempt to destabilize Ukraine before Putin came up with the same idea? Or was it a coincidence that both Luttwak and Putin came up with this idea? Or did Luttwak involuntarily prompted Putin how to set about destabilizing Ukraine?
Anyway, you claim that on March 9 2014 Putin had no intention to destabilize Ukraine and this idea occurred to him on a hunch much later. I don't buy that.

After the dissolution of the Soviet Union 1991, there have been attempts to revive the concept, with the most significant development being the pro-Russian separatist confederation of Novorossiya and the subsequent War in Donbass.

I'm sure this part was added AFTER March 9 2014.

[Husar]

I'm sure this part was added AFTER March 9 2014.

Maybe the entire article was edited afterwards.