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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Around the same time because that is about the time it takes for the people who lived under the former wrong system to die out?
    If that were true we would have succeeded in wiping out the Welsh and the Cornish over a century ago.
    The South is not a "system" it is a culture.

    Compare to the Roman attempts to wipe out Christianity, or the multiple vigorous attempts to wipe out Judaism.

    Nazism itself was a relatively short lived political ideaology, so it was relatively easy to wipe out, because you didn't have to attack Germany's underlying culture (which remains largely intact).
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    Only if you go the slash and burn, rip children from thier mothers breast method that takes you from the moral high ground and straight into the laurentian abyss.
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    If that were true we would have succeeded in wiping out the Welsh and the Cornish over a century ago.
    The South is not a "system" it is a culture.

    Compare to the Roman attempts to wipe out Christianity, or the multiple vigorous attempts to wipe out Judaism.

    Nazism itself was a relatively short lived political ideaology, so it was relatively easy to wipe out, because you didn't have to attack Germany's underlying culture (which remains largely intact).
    The Nazis also had children, the turning point was when the whole population was forced to admit the crimes they let happen in their country. Some were forced to walk through concentration camps and "clean them up", bury the dead etc. A similar method would have to be found for the south so that they realize how wrong their ideas are and begin to not teach their children the old and wrongful ways. Currently the federal government does not put enough effort into crushing the racist myths like the ones we have seen in this thread.
    It's not about wiping it out, it's about making them face the problems with their culture so that they will want to change themselves. At the moment they perpetuate the myths about how great it is and noone really opposes or challenges them.

    That you think about ripping children away from mothers is worrying though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    The Nazis also had children, the turning point was when the whole population was forced to admit the crimes they let happen in their country. Some were forced to walk through concentration camps and "clean them up", bury the dead etc. A similar method would have to be found for the south so that they realize how wrong their ideas are and begin to not teach their children the old and wrongful ways. Currently the federal government does not put enough effort into crushing the racist myths like the ones we have seen in this thread.
    It's not about wiping it out, it's about making them face the problems with their culture so that they will want to change themselves. At the moment they perpetuate the myths about how great it is and noone really opposes or challenges them.
    Except that, again, you're only talking about things a generation deep, and only a small proportion of Germans were actually involved in Nazisim directly, or actively supported Nazi genocides. There's ample evidence from the diaries of German soldiers that they were disgusted by the Nazis, but they were honourable to a fault and loyal to their country.

    That's completely different to crushing hundreds of years of history - something the North actually tried with "Reconstruction". They flat out failed and Southern Stats had to be forced to integrate by Federal Law.

    That you think about ripping children away from mothers is worrying though.
    Don't make this about my character, this has nothing to do with what I believe, I'm telling you how it can be done - if you feel it's justified.

    I know the history, I didn't make this up - it was a common practice in most the world until about 50 years ago, the aim being to create homogeneous nation-states out of disparate peoples. One of the best expressions of the phenomenon and its impact on children and their families was an Australian Film called "Rabbit Proof Fence", there was also a US film about the residential schools there, but I can't remember the name of it.
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    Default Re: Another terrible race motivated attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    I know the history, I didn't make this up - it was a common practice in most the world until about 50 years ago, the aim being to create homogeneous nation-states out of disparate peoples. One of the best expressions of the phenomenon and its impact on children and their families was an Australian Film called "Rabbit Proof Fence", there was also a US film about the residential schools there, but I can't remember the name of it.
    Or even cultural genocide in its purest form, as practised by Genghis Khan. Kill all males above a certain height (and thus age). Enroll all remaining males in a homogenised culture defined by you. Go and do stuff under the name of the new culture.

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    Default Re: Another terrible race motivated attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Except that, again, you're only talking about things a generation deep, and only a small proportion of Germans were actually involved in Nazisim directly, or actively supported Nazi genocides. There's ample evidence from the diaries of German soldiers that they were disgusted by the Nazis, but they were honourable to a fault and loyal to their country.

    That's completely different to crushing hundreds of years of history - something the North actually tried with "Reconstruction". They flat out failed and Southern Stats had to be forced to integrate by Federal Law.
    History is only in peoples' heads and we have far more modern ways to mess with them than the people in any of the previous attempts had at their disposal. At one point it may become possible to just overwite their memories with different ones.
    Either way I was talking about a very big and proactive effort, not just dropping some leaflets.

    Something like switch all the TV programs to federal propaganda and facts about how evil the south was half the day. Some may resist at first but once they are crushed the others will slowly start to change their beliefs. Korea was one country at some point and now the entire north is brainwashed to believe the Kims are angels and everybody else is an enemy. Don't pretend it is not possible.

    You could start to strip them of benefits, make shops that you can only enter wearing a union flag etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Don't make this about my character, this has nothing to do with what I believe, I'm telling you how it can be done - if you feel it's justified.
    You keep misreading me. I quoted both you and Greyblades and that part was especially aimed at Greyblades, indicated by the fact that I used the same words he did.


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