I'm hosting a game!

[landlubber]

It doesn't seem logical to me that you'd be so willing to claim early. It's a big risk to draw this much attention to yourself, and the payoff is... what, exactly? Hoping to earn our trust so that we won't lynch you? Why didn't you just wait until you were in some kind of danger before claiming?

[Visor]

It doesn't seem logical to me that you'd be so willing to claim early. It's a big risk to draw this much attention to yourself, and the payoff is... what, exactly? Hoping to earn our trust so that we won't lynch you? Why didn't you just wait until you were in some kind of danger before claiming?

Because I am a pretty good townie and I never make it to endgame.

Basically what this does is narrow the pool for other players, and keeps me out of harms way. Its playing to my win condition.

[Visor]

I've literally never claimed this early ever

so its already likely that I am telling the truth, plus it makes no sense from any perspective for me to claim this role.

I can link you to every scum and third party etc game I've ever played.

[Visor]

*any other perspective to claim this role

I should say.

[landlubber]

I've literally never claimed this early ever

Pretty much every mafia player in history could say that, given that you've claimed well before night 1. I wasn't going to vote for you because this strategy is so dubious as mafia, but your defense of calling this much attention to yourself (which, surely, you should have expected) is so flinchy and unprepared that I'm having second thoughts. Novelty is not a defense, and saying you're a good townie isn't either, given that you could easily win with the mafia. Why shouldn't I vote for you? The town doesn't need you to win.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I wonder if Double A's going to continue to thank all non-El Barto posts in this thread.

[seireikhaan]

Yes, that's probably correct. It's pretty darn suspicious that someone would reveal a role like that on day one. A jester? ....Nah, that would be against The Rules, you're silly. I kinda think we should leave him for the mafia to dead him. But... well, I suppose that's possible. Nah, I'm leaving him unless you can come up with a better argument than that.

Then, it's a question of whether GH is mafia trying to capitalize on him. Wait, yeah, you're right. GH wouldn't jump out that hard on day one over something silly like that if he was mafia, he'd play it a bit more low key.

Of course, then it gets pretty random who we vote for. Any suggestions?

Wait, what do I call him? Oh right....

Vote: Ishmael

Not a bad suggestion, yeah. That'll work. Maybe.

[Double A]

Of course! From which deli?

Hm, know any good Jewish ones?

I wonder if Double A's going to continue to thank all non-El Barto posts in this thread.

I'm not thanking john either.

[Montmorency]

Vote: Visorslash

Lynch him now or we'll just end up lynching him tomorrow.

[Winston Hughes]

unvote; vote: Visorslash

Booo! Those cornball antics may play in the sticks, but this is Capital City!

[Visor]

Vote: Visorslash

Lynch him now or we'll just end up lynching him tomorrow.

Yeah this makes no sense. Either you actually believe I'm mafia with the ~stupidest play of all the time, or you're just seeking to waste d1. Not all of you can actually be scum, and I'm sure there is a townie amongst you, and any of you that are town would be wise to put some effort to actually looking at other players rather than going for the easy low hanging fruit each round.

unvote; vote: Visorslash

Booo! Those cornball antics may play in the sticks, but this is Capital City!

You're smarter than this Winston. I suppose me saying this gives you an easy opportunity to keep your vote on me, but we'll see.

Pretty much every mafia player in history could say that, given that you've claimed well before night 1. I wasn't going to vote for you because this strategy is so dubious as mafia, but your defense of calling this much attention to yourself (which, surely, you should have expected) is so flinchy and unprepared that I'm having second thoughts. Novelty is not a defense, and saying you're a good townie isn't either, given that you could easily win with the mafia. Why shouldn't I vote for you? The town doesn't need you to win.

Well besides the fact that voting me is pretty much against your win condition as I am not mafia and by voting me you have no intention of actually solving the game or finding wolves. If I get lynched you guys go into basically day 1 round 2 because you don't have a town flip to check motivations from and scum can easily hide under a lynch all non town persona because that plays into their wincon of not getting lynched and reducing the pool of players even though I could technically win with them.

In any event I will not be siding with the mafia as I don't feel that it is very fun and I feel I should have just been a VT rather than a survivor, though I guess me claiming survivor probably puts a huge and easy arrow on my head for a lynch.

[Visor]

I'm basically a bulletproof townie for all intents and purposes. No mafia is going to PM me and say hey me and x are the mafia don't vote us k thanks. And I guess from the town perspective its sorta suspiscious as if the claim is successful I will be making it to endgame unopposed basically.

If there is some sort of cop I guess I would request a scan of me simply to prove I am who I say I am though I that is a bad scan and actually pretty selfish but it secures my victory if they out the scan at some point.

I would ask that you give me at least a days grace and that you read me based off my words and actions and less of my claim. You can read the previous two games el barto hosted here where I was mafia and both and note a distinct difference in playstyle. If you have any idea of how I play you probably already noticed a difference in tone.

[Winston Hughes]

Either you actually believe I'm mafia with the ~stupidest play of all the time, or you're just seeking to waste d1.

Firstly, I think you'd fancy yourself to get away with the '~stupidest play of all the time' defence here.

Secondly, if it would be so stupid a claim for scum, wouldn't it be even more stupid for a survivor?

Thirdly, as above, I think the claim is just boring if true, and I don't see you taking the boring option.

You're smarter than this Winston.

Apparently not.

I suppose me saying this gives you an easy opportunity to keep your vote on me, but we'll see.

Now this I find interesting. Do you really think I'd vote for you as an easy option, whatever my alignment was?

[Visor]

Firstly, I think you'd fancy yourself to get away with the '~stupidest play of all the time' defence here.

Secondly, if it would be so stupid a claim for scum, wouldn't it be even more stupid for a survivor?

Thirdly, as above, I think the claim is just boring if true, and I don't see you taking the boring option.



Apparently not.



Now this I find interesting. Do you really think I'd vote for you as an easy option, whatever my alignment was?

I didn't really think about the claim but I honestly figure myself for an early nightkill target so I figured I would claim immediately as it was my best chance.

And yes whilst it is boring and I don't like boring I also like to play to my win condition and I figure being upfront about this gives me the best chance of success.

And potentially I think you might (depends if you keep the vote), because getting rid of me gets rid of a potential threat, narrows the player pool and takes any sort of heat of you and a potential partner if mafia.

There are arguments both ways but I think lynching me today is inherently pro mafia.

[Visor]

How likely do you think it is I am telling the truth Winston?